xerox DC 240 VS DC 252

HELLO, newbie here, can somebody tell me the difference between DC 240 AND DC 252?
Any input is appreciated!

 

I was told there were a few PWB changes between the 240 and 242 and 250 and 252 but largely all the same parts with tweaks to small things to improve (have not seen an exhaustive list.) I haven't seen a post where anyone noticed a huge difference in print quality between the xx0 and xx2 mark II units. The user interface is slightly different and the firmware / rip software is different. I was told there won't be any patches/updates for the 240/250 whereas the 242 and 252 are still current so there may be if needed.

I was also curious what effects the faster speed of the 50/65 page per minute 250/252 over the 240/242 speed of 40/55 pages per minute would have on print quality and reliability. But I have not see any reliability/print quality reliability issues quantified nor have I seen quality comparisons pointing out any major differences. So I believe the decision is as simple as it seems at face value: print speed vs. machine cost.

 

240 & 250 both run the same 20 copies minute 11x17 so the speed up is only on the 8.5x11 paper.

The RIP for the 240 if it came with extra software was the Acrobat 6, Pitstop 6. where as the one for 242, 252 would have shipped with Acrobat 7, Pitstop 7.

These are non upgradeable by my understanding.

Fiery also included a imposition program which I received as part of the demo unit I bought but if I wouldn't actually pay extra for it - better to buy Quite Imposing, or other imposition program that has a life after copier, same is true of Acrobat and Pitstop.

Ken

 

That is really interesting to me. Is the same is true then for the 252? Is there any speed up of the 250/252 for black and white 11x17s over the 240/242?

A year ago I was debating whether to go for the docucolor 242 or 252 and got pricing and spec sheets for both. I had specifically asked about the 11x17 speed on the 242 and also said that 98% of my work is on 11x17, but the blame is on me because I just assumed that the speed increase would carry through. Luckily for budget reasons I chose the 242 (probably if I had gone down the 252 road I would have found out and gone back anyway, but it's interesting to learn now that there actually was no decision to make then.) And a reminder to myself to never assume anything.

 

You guys have to take into consideration that xerox specs the machine speeds based of off single sided 8 1/2 by 11 sheets. Any sheet size larger or duplexing means the sheet has to spend more time in the printer. So with that said if you are running anything other than 8 1/2 by 11 do not expect the machine to run at full capacity. Always ask and read the fine print if you run a different paper. Also paper weight can effect speed on certain machines as well. When you highlight the heavyweight paper options it slows the ransfer down to allow the sheet to settle better to obtain a quality print.

 

That is true; but I'm still surprised that the 252 offers an increased letter size speed over the 240 but no 11x17 speed increase; I had not heard that before and I would not have guessed that. I know there are some printers in this class which print an 11x17 sheet slightly slower than half the speed of printing 8.5 x 11's, while some actually print an 11 x 17 slightly faster than two 8.5 x 11's. So I didn't expect necessarily a straight 1/2 speed for the larger sheet size, but I was really surprised to hear that the 250 increases the speed of letter with zero increase in the 11x17 sheet speed. P.S. do you know of a document or table online which enumerates the different sheet size print speeds of the docucolor models?

 

Jeff, I just did a bit of checking using Google with words
Xerox 240 11x17 speed

A 8 page pdf shows up mid way down the page

[PDF]
Product Brochure - DocuColor 240/250 (PDF, 777 KB)

in it it says up to 1500 11x17 impressions per hour.

So am I right or wrong, well I said they did 20 copies minute 11x17 so in that I am wrong - if a 240 does 25 copies minute color then I am partly correct stating both are same speed at 11x17. That they were both the same speed at 11x17 was how me and the salesman took it but to be honest I've never done a check to see if my 240 unit does 25 cpm Color at 11x17.

Sorry wasn't sure how to attach a pdf or provide a link as is wants to download. A bit of the text pasted below. Ken

DocuColor 240/250:
• 25 ppm Enhanced Gloss mode 64 – 105 g/m2 (18 lb bond to 28 lb bond)
• 25 ppm (A4, 8.5 in. x 11 in.) 106 – 176 g/m2 (up to 65 lb cover)
• 16 ppm Enhanced Gloss mode 106 – 176 g/m2 (up to 65 lb cover)
• 16 ppm (A4, 8.5 in. x 11 in.) 177 – 300 g/m2 (up to 110 lb cover)
• Up to 3,000 full process color A4 (letter) 4/0 impressions per hour
• Up to 1,500 A3 (tabloid) 4/0 impression per hour