Ryobi 3404 DI vs. Heidelberg QMDI 46-4

[James]

Buying a used press, would you look at a Ryobi 3404 DI (possibly lower cost of operation and maintenance, and possibly better print quality???) or a Heidelberg QMDI 46-4 (for legendary Heidelberg quality)? Any thoughts from anyone who has operated either of these presses would be greatly appreciated.

 

[mirve]

Dear SIR,
We are selling and buying used di machines. Ryobi ,Quickmaster 46-4 di machines.We have reference from worldwide.
Best Regards
Balance Gmbh
merve.pehlivan@balancegraph.ch
0041 41 242 11 50- www.balancegraph.com


1-)HEIDELBERG QUICKMASTER DI AGE: 2002

only 3,4 mio imprs

DELTA RIP VERSION 7

as new very good condition



PRICE: 113.000 Euro loaded on truck.





2-)HEIDELBERG QUICKMASTER DI 46-4



AGE: 1996

DELTA RIP

IMPRS 5.MIO

VERY GOOD CONDITION

Price: 33.000 euro loaded on truck.



We have available:



-Video of machine

-Heidelberg Report

-Photos

 

[James]

What accounts for the huge difference in price between #1 and #2? The 1996 needs a lot of maintenance or shows a noticeably worse print quality than the 2002? Neither seems to have many impressions on them -- what are these presses rated for? 25-50 million impressions?

 

[mirve]

Dear SIR,
1. machine is Classic version.
2. machine is Plus version.
Classic have better software and some washing device , easier to handle better print ,Plus have more Laser diote
This is as like as you have new model car but old model with new look

Two machines has Heidelberg Report. Very good condition machines.We have too many reference from worldwide.( U.S.A, South Africa,Canada,UK,Germany...)

If you want to see photos ,Heidelberg Report and videos please contact to me by e-mail.
merve.pehlivan@balancegraph.ch
0041 41 242 11 50

 

[Mechanic]

I ve worked on both presses for quite a long. No doubt, the Ryobi (presstek) is way ahead of the QM

 

[jan]

Dear Mirve,
it's blah blah blah what you are writing.
you are selling QM DI but you don't know what you are talking about. All models of QM DI has the same number of diodes (not diotes) . 16 pcs. in each unit means 64 in whole press.
Both Classic and Plus have the same washing devices (plate's, blanket's, roller's), some Plus of them (not Classic)
could have optionally printing cylinder washing device.
rgds
Jan

 

[kev c]

I have operated both presses you mention and the ryobi is far superior in print quality and gives you less problems overall. The only major drag of the ryobi is the sidelay change over which is awful and very difficult to do. I will leave you a contact tell number should you want to chat about either press. kev c 07749980382 liverpool uk

 

[Handsome Dave]

Ryobi blows Heidelberg away

 

[kev c]

kev c

Yes handsome dave,i have to agree with you but the heidelberg side lay and register and ease of backing jobs up blows the ryobi away.

 

[kev c]

Buying a used press, would you look at a Ryobi 3404 DI (possibly lower cost of operation and maintenance, and possibly better print quality???) or a Heidelberg QMDI 46-4 (for legendary Heidelberg quality)? Any thoughts from anyone who has operated either of these presses would be greatly appreciated.

I have operated both presses and the ryobi gives you much better print quality as more rollers and no hollow number three roller that causes so much trouble.You can re write the ryobi plate again without advancing if you have a bad burn and you can over write the same plate as a solid plate if you chose to seal a job without advancing. Ryobi has more plate forme rollers and more inkers but sadly has an absolutely awful side lay device.Be wary of disco manager on press as if you need a code to re set rollers after an improper de clutch,the manufacturer are reluctant to give you the code and you might have to pay for an engineer to come out and fix a basic error

 

[kev c]

Buy the Ryobi Di every time as the quality and features are much better but trade the Ryobi side lay for the Heidelberg sidelay as its very quick and very accurate. You get much better quality on the Ryobi as it has more plate forme rollers and 15 rollers rather than Heidelbergs 11 on Di pro press.