Leasing vs Buying

[kdw75]

The way I understand it you can sign up for metered supplies and service on a used Xerox digital press. Since you can buy a lightly used 700 for around 15K wouldn't that be the better route vs a lease?

Why are the machines with less than 100k impressions so darned cheap?

Someone on this site was selling a 560 with a Fiery that only had 1200 impressions with an OHCF and finisher for 10K dollars.

 

[xfactor printing]

The way I understand it you can sign up for metered supplies and service on a used Xerox digital press. Since you can buy a lightly used 700 for around 15K wouldn't that be the better route vs a lease?

Why are the machines with less than 100k impressions so darned cheap?

Someone on this site was selling a 560 with a Fiery that only had 1200 impressions with an OHCF and finisher for 10K dollars.

First thing to ask is what click charges you can get on a preowned machine even if it came off a previous xerox full service contract compared with what click rate you can negotiate when leasing a new machine.

Second I'm not sure you would be guaranteed to get perfect quality with a used machine. If they accept it under service contract, they would deliver up to the minimum standards of the machine but there is a gap between perfect and minimum. If the machine has gear wear or some invisible damage/wear could end up with a bit less than "new machine perfect" quality. Or it might be fine. Luck of the draw with a used machine. If you can accept less than the very best quality possible, and/or if some extra service downtime won't hurt your bottom line, the used route is appealing. If the machine being up is worth more to you than the cost of the lease, and you want no surprises and the best quality possible, look at leasing options. (usually quality does decline a little and unexpected issues increase as a machine gets up in clicks and years even when it's under full service contract. The best quality is usually the first 100,000-500,000 prints IMHO.)

 

[kdw75]

So you think that you won't get click charges that are as low on a used machine? We leased a 560 last week and seeing these cheap used ones just had me wondering what the downside was to buying one of them and putting it under contract.

 

[xfactor printing]

Yes I predict you can negotiate 1 to 1.5 cents lower color click with a new leased machine than a preowned machine.
Now granted over 1 million clicks, that's only 10,000-15,000; over 2 million clicks that's still only 20,000-30,000.

 

[azehnali]

how many people run a million over 5 year let alone 2 million
average print for pay runs 5000 a month and the high volume ones are lucky if the cosistanlty run 20,000 a month