Anyone get canon imagePRESS sample prints yet? Since finish quallity / gloss differential is the only aspect of print quality that is setting canon printed from press printed pieces apart from my customers' point of view (who don't look with a loupe, etc.) I'm really curious how the new V Toner and imagePRESS series that "apply gloss optimization" will look compared to current color imagerunner (too matte on gloss and some jitter issues) or clc (too gloss on matte and uneven gloss according to toner density in a given area) machines. Not that the existing machines aren't better than ever before, but if canon can make a major step forward on gloss uniformity I think it will be hard to beat.

Also any rumors of a midrange model between the 14/60 ppm imagePRESS C1 and the impagePRESS C7000VP?

I have just seen a sample of the Imagepress, and I must say I was extremely impressed. The detail was startling. It was a picture of a model and showed the finest details...I was hard pressed to tell the difference from work off my 4 colour press. At least the sample I saw seemed better by a substantial amount to the Xerox iGen3..though I would have preferred to see more samples..

Thanks very much for the early impression Danny! Still have not seen a sample myself but look forward to seeing a variety and am really looking forward to see what the next generation can do. Was the sample you saw on matte color copy paper, or?

The sample I saw was on a Kromecote high gloss cover. The optimization feature matched the stock shine such that you could see no toner relief effect. Quite amazing if that image quality holds true. I visually saw some booklets as well that also were great, but who knows how much the file was tweaked. They are talking about pricing in the 50,000 dollar range for C1...the Imagepress 7000 in the 200,000 range. The speed factor on the C1 may be a problem.

If you guys want to send me a file. I can get it printed for you and mail it out to you. I have a C1 in my ikon showroom. mcauley@ikon.com

Thank you! I'll take you up on that as I'm very curious to see with my own eyes the gloss quality the new generation can deliver! Will email a PDF on Monday. Thanks!

Hi ! I am doing very Customize photo album (Family album) for my customers. Currently, I came across digital press - Indigo & canon imagepress. I saw indigo printout - the A3 print quality is quite impressive but still sees a small defects - (Still acceptable). Hot Laminating on the image is not a issue. May want to switch from photolab to digital press printout - cheaper in cost.

How is the print quality?
How is the Handling/scratch resistant?
How is Canon image press on Hot laminating?

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Nissh

Thanks to IKON I've been looking at my ImagePRESS C1 print samples for a while now.

The print quality is definitely good.

• To my eyes, the photographic images are more natural looking than from a CLC 5000, but also have better density (darker shadows, yet not losing shadow detail going to black to achieve it) than my color imagerunners. (as expected of course)
• The colors are definitely deeper and richer than what we can achieve now on our imagerunners by a noticable amount. The blue sky and blue and green water, and red highlights are all 30% deeper and more saturated. The yellow grass of winter/spring has more detai in every blade. Of course most people going to an imagepress C1 will probably be coming from a CLC where there is likely less color difference.
• The large solid black areas on my test print are 100% perfect.
  The light gray areas are 100% prefect. The large solid medium gray test area shows a bit of inconsistency which looks to my eyes like drum wear; it's 96% perfect on my subjective scale.
• The gloss quality is good, as good as I've seen from any canon, hp, xerox, oki, etc. laser to date, but not perfect. It's good enough to pass for the offset work we used to get on gloss text but without an aqueous or uv coating like we are accustomed to now on press-printed work.
• If you look at the gloss imagepress C1 output straight on, it looks very good. But if you look at it at a 15 to 30 degree angle you still get a bit of an outline / gloss differential effect if you have areas of white next to areas of black. (but I really became picky about this after going to digital laser prints and not wanting my prints to look "laser"... I recently looked at some of the press printed work I had done in the 90s that I didn't have any complaints about at the time and it too suffers from some gloss differential where the inks are glossier than the standard gloss text stock used back then, so maybe I'm being too critical now that all the postcards and trifolds we have press printed are uv coated.) The gloss quality is good, which is a nice step from previous laser output to date which I would say was only so-so in terms of gloss, but not perfect. (not you could design to fit this gloss; the sample I sent had a black and white boat and a couple people wearing white shirts and black coats, probably the very worst case in terms of trying to match toner and paper gloss levels.)
• I'm not able to damage the prints, other than by physically denting the paper, by rubbing my fingernail over the print 50 times or by abrading with my hands or handing roughly. I can drag the toner by rubbing with a pen, but this seems to go beyond any reasonable expectation for abuse. I would consider these prints quite durable and would be confident that customers would not damage them by handling straight from the printer.

The price seems a bit on the high side for the slow color speed; I suppose any new technolgy goes to those with the largest budgets first. This probably wouldn't quite be the "last printer I'll every buy" as I'd like just a little less gloss differential, but I'd be quite happy putting a million prints on one of these!

Hi !

The richer color can be due to proper color management that canon imagepress is applying. Canon is very strong in color management. From your description on colour, it looks that it is has a high quality.

How about grey tone page? Is it very uniform? Cos most of the digital offset have problems on this grey page.


Do u know whether is there a problem running through hot OPP lamination?

How much is 4 color A3 size print in the market?

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Andy

I am spanish so my english is not so good. I have an Imagepress C1 and I have a very big problem. When impose a file with the percentage of C 48%, M 46%, A 67%, K 18% or similar and you can try also C2, M3, Y31, B0 or similar or a photo or image in this range of mixed in any part, and print in SRA3 format you will see the diference of color in the same sheet. This is a very big problem when you print in impose mode for a designer or an exigent client.

Tecnicians of Canon have been testing my machine for 100 hours and they did not ges a solution. Also I have a coleg with this machine and we make a proof and the same.



I hope this information help you to know better about this machine.

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