White Toner

[BeyondDesigns GH]

Hi Guys, i was wondering if it possible to put a white toner into black and white printer to achieve white print instaed of buying those expensive white toner printers. Advise and suggestions are welcome. Thank you

 

[Biggs]

You'd have to figure a way to purge the developing station and add a white-additive developer. Also there's no guarantee that the machines charge and transfer voltage (developing station too) levels will carry the toner properly (if at all) to the paper.

The short answer to this question would be a "No"

 

[OkiTech]

You'd have to figure a way to purge the developing station and add a white-additive developer. Also there's no guarantee that the machines charge and transfer voltage (developing station too) levels will carry the toner properly (if at all) to the paper.

The short answer to this question would be a "No"

Sir, majority of common printers today do not use carrier/developer anymore, rather magnetic roller and doctor blade. Yes, whole cartridge should be meticulously cleaned but there is no developer (iron powder) in developing section in majority of modern printers.

 

[OkiTech]

Hi Guys, i was wondering if it possible to put a white toner into black and white printer to achieve white print instaed of buying those expensive white toner printers. Advise and suggestions are welcome. Thank you

If your knowledge of the printers and technology in them is so little that you assume that all toners are the same and it is just a powder of different color, question should be: should you be trying to do this or not. Toners varies in its magnetic and melting properties from manufacturer to manufacturer, even from model to model.
I know for a fact that OKI makes white toner capable printers but it does not automatically mean that you can get white toner for OKI model A and refill cartridge from OKI black and white printer model B, it will not work, results will be either light image to toner being dumped in to inside of the printer itself, not fusing properly or flaking due to overheating.
There is a lot of chemistry and engineering in those toners and most of it well-kept secret except for Chineese - they seem to be capable to reverse engineer everything, well, most of it.
If I needed to just print white without braking the bank, I would do this:
Get OKI ES3641, Procolor 900DP which can be bought used under $2000, take yellow imaging unit, vacuum all yellow toner out of it, all I can, take empty yellow toner cartridge - it is just a box, clean it the best I can, refill it with white toner, put this drum and toner instead of blacj and run prints in B/W mode.
Printer will be thinking that it prints B/W while actually printing white.
Note: this particular printer model was chosen because OKI ProColor 920WT is very similar and toners are the same and white (and other colors) toner from 920WT is the same as ProColor 900DP.

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

If your knowledge of the printers and technology in them is so little that you assume that all toners are the same and it is just a powder of different color, question should be: should you be trying to do this or not. Toners varies in its magnetic and melting properties from manufacturer to manufacturer, even from model to model.
I know for a fact that OKI makes white toner capable printers but it does not automatically mean that you can get white toner for OKI model A and refill cartridge from OKI black and white printer model B, it will not work, results will be either light image to toner being dumped in to inside of the printer itself, not fusing properly or flaking due to overheating.
There is a lot of chemistry and engineering in those toners and most of it well-kept secret except for Chineese - they seem to be capable to reverse engineer everything, well, most of it.
If I needed to just print white without braking the bank, I would do this:
Get OKI ES3641, Procolor 900DP which can be bought used under $2000, take yellow imaging unit, vacuum all yellow toner out of it, all I can, take empty yellow toner cartridge - it is just a box, clean it the best I can, refill it with white toner, put this drum and toner instead of blacj and run prints in B/W mode.
Printer will be thinking that it prints B/W while actually printing white.
Note: this particular printer model was chosen because OKI ProColor 920WT is very similar and toners are the same and white (and other colors) toner from 920WT is the same as ProColor 900DP.

Wow, That was very insightful, im so grateful for your imput. Comments are always welcome.

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

You'd have to figure a way to purge the developing station and add a white-additive developer. Also there's no guarantee that the machines charge and transfer voltage (developing station too) levels will carry the toner properly (if at all) to the paper.

The short answer to this question would be a "No"

Thank you Sir. Can u recommend any cost effective white toner printer?. A machine below $1000?

 

[Biggs]

Unfortunately I don't think such a product exists for so little cost. Perhaps you could look into a used model of sorts - but even then, I think you'd be several times over your budget.

May I ask what you'd like to achieve with this device? Perhaps let us know what you'd like to produce, what media you'd like to print on, if it's for internal company use, personal, or if you plan to sell the work for profit?

 

[Biggs]

Sir, majority of common printers today do not use carrier/developer anymore, rather magnetic roller and doctor blade. Yes, whole cartridge should be meticulously cleaned but there is no developer (iron powder) in developing section in majority of modern printers.

I'm more familiar and experienced with larger, production digital presses. Developer is still alive and well there - each imaging station is equipped with a developer station that still has a magnetic/iron based powder that requires the substance to be replaced when it no longer can produce and adequate voltage level.

Perhaps my comment wasn't so applicable to a smaller, 5 station printer - like the Oki line.

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

Unfortunately I don't think such a product exists for so little cost. Perhaps you could look into a used model of sorts - but even then, I think you'd be several times over your budget.

May I ask what you'd like to achieve with this device? Perhaps let us know what you'd like to produce, what media you'd like to print on, if it's for internal company use, personal, or if you plan to sell the work for profit?

I want to be able to print on colored substrates as an addition to my already existing digital printing services. This is will be new to my clients and our system here. Therefore a high end machine would not be advisable since we trying the system with it. Thank you

 

[Biggs]

Have you looked into possibly outsourcing this type of work? I know of several trade printers who do white under-print or white as a 5th color. Keep in mind, those Oki printers, as expensive as they may seem, aren't exactly a high-end device. At least not in the print production world. A Ricoh 7210sx would set you back over 75K, and that's one of the lowest costing 5th station print devices (The Oki models aside).

You don't have many options (if any) with your current budget. Outsourcing could be a viable option.

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

Have you looked into possibly outsourcing this type of work? I know of several trade printers who do white under-print or white as a 5th color. Keep in mind, those Oki printers, as expensive as they may seem, aren't exactly a high-end device. At least not in the print production world. A Ricoh 7210sx would set you back over 75K, and that's one of the lowest costing 5th station print devices (The Oki models aside).

You don't have many options (if any) with your current budget. Outsourcing could be a viable option.

Yes outsourcing would have been the best option but unfortunately there’s none nearby. I have to outsource outside the country which my clients wouldn’t have patience to wait since most of our services are instant. I don’t wanna start with high end machines since it for trials. Demand for the services will advice that. Do you have a link to any used by good working white toner printer for cardstock? Have you any experience with HP CP 5224 and Ghost white toner? Thank you

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

I will be so pleased if I could have ur contact for a one on one conversation. I’m really enjoying your views, help and advice. Thank you

 

[BeyondDesigns GH]

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