Man Roland 304P Problem with Main Drive

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  1. alrasbi

    alrasbi New Member

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    Good afternoon, we have a problem with the Man Roland 304P printing machine. We recently bought the machine from Europe dealer. When starting the equipment from the main switch, the machine starts loading the software. The air supply will also start but the main drive will not.

    I attach a screenshot of the errors to the current problem. I would appreciate advice in solving the problem.
     

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  2. CHOCK

    CHOCK Senior Member

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    Hi sir;
    Problem:
    • No machine run possible
    or
    • Error message on the Leitstand : “SPS: HA: brake does not release"!
    Check following voltages:

    1. armature voltage

    2. field voltage

    3. field current
     
  3. alrasbi

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    Thank sir for your reply and suggestions.
    Currently, the machine is not running. However, we have the compressor working.
    Yes, I will check the voltages as you suggested.
    Basically, we are looking for ways to resolve the error messages translated below:

    PLC: function <setup has not yet been carried out
    PLC: Function (working position has not yet been carried out
    S: ARD: The solvent is empty
    SPS: ABD, ARD: The water is empty
    CLOCK: DH 1, dampening system; The contactor does not drop out in the event of an EMERGENCY STOP
    CLOCK: DH 4, dampening system; The contactor does not drop out in the event of an EMERGENCY STOP
    CLOCK: A protection has been activated; The RTC does not respond
    CLOCK: main drive; The main contactor does not drop out
    PROCESS-BUS: transmission error to unit (NODE 3-1)

    Specific suggestions on how to remedy these errors will be highly appreciated.
     
  4. Asim Shehzad

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    PLC: function <setup has not yet been carried out/ make ready function is not activated from Leitstand computer and you have to do it to remove this message.
    PLC: Function (working position has not yet been carried out/ same as make ready carried out working position
    ARD,ABD fill the empty containers with solvent, and if there is still error message check float switch in the containers or wiring to control system.
    the remaining errors will discuss then later
     
  5. CHOCK

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    Sir:

    You indicate , that main drive NOT running.

    However i saw that problem is the PLC, you must measure the Power +24Vdc in the Input -Out of PLC, in regulated power supply in tolerance for 0.7% up or down, otherwise, the power supply is defective.

    2) You must measure the input Vac, in tolerance for 10% up or down, if the voltage is out of tolerance, adjust the primary winding of main transformer, and good recommendation is install stabilizer voltage from the entire machine to the input of main transformer.

    3) See the status LEDs of power supply, normally must be in Green, HOWEVER, you must measure the tolerance 0.7% up or down.
    if some LEDs, is RED, is faulty, you must replace it the electronic board from power supply.

    4) Look for the CPU, and battery for CMOS circuit, and see if the battery is o.k the voltage, or lower ,if is lower replace with the same type, and you have ONLY 10 minutes for to do it, otherwise, you must loose all the information software, and you must recharge the software.
     
  6. Daniel.Sanchez

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    there is a card that is blocking, there it says station 3, change the security card
     
  7. CHOCK

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    But what did happen Daniel? I do NOT understand

    Let me know, sincerely

    Blessing
     
  8. Daniel.Sanchez

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    I understand that there is a problem station 3, normally the security card fails, it may be that it is damaged, it is difficult to diagnose with so little data
     
  9. John Tan

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    Anyone can recommend where to get servo motor for Roland 304P Printing machine?
    I need 400N 750W AGV Hybrid Step Servo Drive DC Servo Motor With Encoder


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  10. CHOCK

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    Hi sir:
    Send me Pic of main motor to quote you.\+ delivery country for freight

     
  11. John Tan

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    Hello Sir,
    Pls see photo.
    Thank you!
     

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  12. CHOCK

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    ok, sir, delivery ?
    Let see.

     
  13. John Tan

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    Do you have an email I can communicate with you directly? The buyer is from Davao Philippines.
     
  14. CHOCK

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    I can not supply my email , by rules of Forum

    Send me your email, please

    Blessing
     
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    check a344 pin 1 pin 2 if there is voltage 24v
     
  17. John Tan

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    Hi Sir,
    Have not receive your email yet
     
  18. drukman

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    It doesn't look like a Man Roland 304P Main Drive
     
  19. Asim Shehzad

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    yeah, you are right it's a CPL clamp motor that he needs but he threaded and mixed up in the wrong post.
     

  20. John Tan

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    Oh I'm sorry, could you recommend where I could get a replacement for this?
     
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