Make ready sheet quantity

[luke]

Interested to find out what amount of overs you are given per 4 colour job.
Please list the size machine it is for.

The amount of overs we are given has dropped significantly over the years, to a point that for a run length of:

10 Sheets - 1000 Sheets (overs given for job are 80 - 150 sheets)
1000 - 10000 Sheets (Overs given for job are 100 - 200 sheets)
10000 - 50000 Sheets (Overs given for job are 150 - 250 Sheets)

For example, I can have a 1000 booklets to print. SRA3. ( 3 double sided sheets)
I would be given 80 - 150 overs per sheet so that is 40 - 75 over per side.

 

[FSA]

luke
Wow, I get a ton of over compared to you. On the 4c MO '87 running ctp 400 per 4c form and 10% for waste up to 5000 sheet runs, the percents drops with higher quanites. The 8c SM '98 running ctp will wreck 50 sheets every time it gets a early sheet, the suits buy stock for that press with 12% - 30% for short runs and will go down to 2% for the long runs, and I mean some runs are national mailers, good book readers. Hope your running ctp.
FSA

 

[pressman57]

Don't be penny-wise and pound foolish. When you skimp on overs you deliver jobs that look like crap, and you rapidly go out of business.

 

[turbotom1052]

when management doesnt give enough paper for makeready they FORCE the pressman to switch on the counter early just to be able to make count. It also doesnt allow for any problems with printing because a single defect in print will cause a shortage. Its a shame that something as foolish as wishfull thinking is what determines the quantity of mr sheets the press crew receives!!! The printing process requires paper to get a job up to color. The process really doesnt give a rats *** about a companies profitability or the high cost of paper.

 

[spike]

I agree with every body else not enough make ready; i save any left 0ver stock ican find.
to use on the next job for overs or TO make ready/ find a spot to stash some away

 

[Raphael D Coccia]

We always figure 200 sheets per color and 3% waste per operation in the bindery and we never have issues with being short. But it also depend on what press you have. I hope this helps

 

[tim enigma]

sounds like the hell hole i used to work at. every month i had a 1200 book run. 2 over2, 3 sigs. and they would only give me 100 sheets over. Then they always wondered why i kept old used stock laying around. a lot of the time i was given zero overs. their response was "its just a single color job". the day they fired me was the happiest in my life. The shop i work at part time usualy gives me 300 sheets over. this is for a pm52 2 color and this is only used for 4 color work. this seems to be plenty but there is always extra stock if i need it.

 

[aqazi81]

here we get 100-125 sheets per a 4/4 job on a 40 '' press.

 

[petar]

100 sheets for 4c jobs(1-10000), 160-250 for 4\4 usually 200. Customer for approval-100sheets, jobs that has to be perfect like book covers,labels etc - 100sheets.The good thing is there is no problem if I use more for makeready sometimes, in the end just have to say the manager how many sheets I need and the paper will come after 1/2 hour ( COFFEE TIME )) )

 

[PMS]

I can relate to that. There's a printshop in British Columbia, in the town of Cranbrook who operate that way. They expect 100 make-ready sheets per full colour job, thus 25 sheets for each unit, and this on a older model 5 col. Heidelberg GTO 52. Needless to mention, they were always short on final count in bindery, and I saved as many run up sheets and old stock as I could find for the next job. Then all of a sudden they let me go, right after the busy season.
That was the cheapest company I ever worked for. They couldn't even afford a new set of inkrollers for quality control. Had to work with hard glazed rollers. Shame on them.

 

[sketchprinting]

Wow, I could make some seriously money on my digital press from the overs you guys have.

 

[Michael4]

100 ftw

 

[Lignum]

I'm running a 2 sided mailer, 10 point c2s, start with 134,000 sheets, finish with 126,772.
Most jobs we run get at least 1000 sheets overs for makeready and running waste.

 

[NotAGooner]

My ex company would buy a cheap skid of 40x28 in gloss and a cheap one of offset for use as needed, they're not fools