Main motor DIMFG 100 S64 help please

Hello i have a question about pin 4 to main motor cable.

What function have the pin4 to motor.

Thank you in advance

 

What model is the Heidelberg machine??

Send a Pic a Main Motor DIMFG 100

 

SM 52 4 colour

Atached motor side 8 pin bottom where come 6 cable from UVM and are code resistors 5.6 kohms pin 5-7 and 6-7 5.6kohm and 7-8 temperature sensors pin 9-10 brake
In top photo that i dont have right now in there are 4 pins biG that cames from BLT4
Pin 1 is U
Pin 2 is V
Pin 3 is W

Pin 4 ???????

Thanks in advance

 

Hello Mr.Chock
Is maybe pin4 GND ??

Thanks in advance

 

Attached an screenshot of motor marked with blu main conection box.

 

Hi sir:

I saw my schematic diagrams for SM 52-4 , you are using a Brushless Motor BLT4

However KTV=U =pin 1 m1-x1
KTV=V=Pin 2 m1-x1
KTV-W=Pin 3 m1-x1 all for Main Motor
Pin #4 there is NOT exist in the schematic +PE= Ground (wire green+yellow) as you send it.

The only # 4 is M1-X2 With G from UVM-X5 IN BLT4 .

If you have any doubt will be a Good Idea , that you send me Pics from terminals from Blt4 +terminals of main motor.

Let me know, sincerely

Blessing

 

Thanks for your reply Mr.Chock
Great that was why i ask ?
Because here terminal from KVT U,V,W are connected with motor in pin 1,2,3 and ground is connected to pin4 of motor and in shield of cable and motor case .

Pins of BLT4 kvt heat sink
From left to right
U | V |W | nothing| choper resistor 15R1| L1| L2|L3 | inductor 0.1mh | inductor o.1mh & other side choper restor 15R1|

Blt and motor is connected with cable 5 wire

Pins in motor box
Gnd shield cable to motor case
U to pin 1
V to pin 2
W to pin 3
GND again to pin 4

So as i understand in normal condition to energize the motor we need only UVW from KVT and from UVM to control the brake and to know the temperature and know motor with code resistor and encoder to have feedback.
I will send photo asap

Thank you in advance

Kind regards

 

Hello
How are you today
Atached photo cable female and male conected to motor

And other side to BLT4
That are 5 wire
U = pin1
V= pin 2
W= pin 3
Gnd black = pin 4
Gnd yellow= shield cable and motor case

Thanks in advance

 

Hi sir:
Here is the order in the schematic diagram according with the terminal BLT4-KVT-

U- Pin 1 KVT-UZW + (terminals)
V= pin 2 KVT-UZW+(terminals)
W= pin 3 KVT-UZW+(terminals)



UVM -x4: pin 8 vs pin 5 M1-X1(terminals)=RESISTOR FOR EMI
UVM-X4: PIN 9 vs pin 6 M1-X1(terminals)=Resistor for EMI
UVM-X4: pin 1 vs pin7 M1-X19(terminals) =Ground
UVM-X4: Pin 11 vs pin 8 M1-X1(terminals) = adjustable resitor
UVM-X4: Pin 4 vs pin 9 M1-X1 (terminals)= ONE Leg of brake main motor
UVM-X4: pin 7 vs pin 10 M1-X1(terminals)= the other leg of brake main motor

Pe = Gnd ( yellow-green)

 

Hi Sir.
Ok great. I compare i have the same connection here.

I want to ask please because in init code i have error BLT-con 5BFC and scrollin pages i have HAK03 FFF5 in initcodes

I have decoded the both error motor not compatible with power part for alarm Hak03 FFF5 and for bltcon 5BFc armature no current flow


Attached some photo on console

Intermediate circuit voltage 570 volt
TTK voltage 51 Volt
Heatsink temperature 19 grad celcius

TTK version 08
KVT version 08
Motor version 55

 

Hello Mr.Chock
A question if one little motor have a problem the main motor will be energize or not ?

Thanks in advance

 

Hi sir:ON:
Error BLT-C: 5BFC =
Check:
Interrupt frame circuit; no current flow

Error ;HAK03: FFF5=
Engine not compatible with the voltage applied .
Engine failure during testing .


A question if one little motor have a problem the main motor will be energize or not ?
1) Normally NOT, since they auxi device, Nothing to do with the main motor
2) they use small voltage like: +24Vdc
3) Main Motor : 220-240Vac or 380Vac or 440Vac

If you need another question, send me his email

 

Hello sir.
Great thats mean that BLT4 and main motor does not have error apart that not energized because on Hak03 we have error.
Is that correct ?
Can you help too to locate the motor and driver controlled by hak03 .

In mean time my email adress is.
fatjonshabanikali@gmail.com

Thank you in advance

 

Hello
Error init code hak03 FFF5 was solved after repair ltk500 module.

Now remain error BLT_con 5BFC

Any idea wich component in AVM or UVM is broken

Kind regards

 

Hi tony :
look for :
Interrupt frame circuit; no current flow
Test the IGBT power transistor en el AVM .

 

Hello sir.
Thanks for reply. The igbt used is mg200q2ys91 i have tested two times and results are in good condition. Anyway i will test again maybe not good tested.

I will letting know asap Sir.

Kind Regards

 

Please look for , corrosion, or dirty, or colder, or dry solder joint colder, loose wires

 

Hello sir.
I have looked for them and i have tested clock in mhz and i do reset of UVM1 cpu 87c51. Clock results ok. I have looked for plug communicatio x1 on uvm 64 pin i have output ok only the pin 17A 17C result no connection with ground.

Why no connection whith ground ?

Kind Regards

 

look, for his schematic diagrams first

Remember the Vcc for the CPU, must be in tolerance, otherwise you will have malfunction from CPU.

Remember the engineer design this, and they put all in the schematic electrical diagrams

Blessing

 

Hello Mr.Chock you have right.

I have measured again igbt power semiconductor and there are broken. Because resistance in emiter collector is not the same when gate opens.

I will change them.

Thank you for the support.

Kind Regards