M300 Pcq problem

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  1. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Dear sir
    Referring to our machine Goss M300 machine Nr. 842-1992 type D0178
    I have problem with Pcq control system. When turning the machine on
    We found that all register and ink Motors on all printing units doesn't read on the screen, so that we cannot control registers and ink Motors in all printing units.
    The pcq give us the following message
    "FAULT INITALIZATION bubble memory do you want to reinitalize, yes no"
    Could you please help me to overcome Pcq problem?
     

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    CHOCK Senior Member

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    Hi sir:

    1) Perform a visual inspection : look for loose and broken wires, improperly seated connectors, loose or broken wires
    missing switch, missing jumpers. and so on.
    Chech for obviously damaged component(components burned or discolore due to overheating);
    Dust + dirt + tear +wear

    2) Reseating Boards and components:
    Edge connectors are a common source of problems. Power down the system and remove the PC boards. Examine the edge connector
    for contamination and clean with contacts cleaner contacts. Reseat any loose components such as scoketed ICs) . Reseat the
    boards and power up.

    3) Power supply checks:
    Check the power supply for missing voltages and voltages out of spec. A digital multimieter DMM can be necessary, as
    voltage specifications are quite tight: logic supplies for example: must be within + 5% percent of 5Vdc. All the
    multiple supplies and all must be checked.

    4) Board swapping:
    Board swapping involves the substitutiono of a known godd board for a suspect one.


    5) Clock for CPU:
    Check the frecuency with frequency counter or a DMM included frecuency counter( like Fluke DMM)


    6)Reset CPU:
    reset cpu see the attached schematic.

    7) Components ; Rusting+Dry+Colder joint solders

    8)Cables; Corroded+Broken

    9)
    Finally the most important tool or instrument a service technician can have is his/her senses:
    1) Sight
    2)Smell
    3)Touch
    4)Hearing

    Merry Christmas
     

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  3. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply
    Firstly we found problem with card
    And we changed with new one
    And we found - +15v DC power supply problem and changed with new one
    We cleaned all the computer case cards and checked the flat cable connector s
    We need to know how to reset or initialize bubble memory the pcq
     
  4. CHOCK

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    Great that you find 2 problems.

    We need to know how to reset or initialize bubble memory the pcq ?

    Attached is there again the schematic how to Reset the CPU, you can Not Reset the memory, since the CPu control the memory, attached is there some schematic that i did, for idea how work the CPU+memory. o.k?
     

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  5. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply
    I don't know which electronic card containing the cpu
     
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    MOBO= Motherboard

    Blessing
     
  7. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply
    Do you have the schematic for this pcq
    I don't have schematic know
    You are certain That card called MOBO in the catalog
     
  8. CHOCK

    CHOCK Senior Member

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    No i do not have

    You must call to the dealer

    Blessing
     
  9. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply
    I do not have a dealer
    The catalog in my work
    Are you working at this pcq before
     
  10. CHOCK

    CHOCK Senior Member

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    yes I did sir,

    Now am Older man, retired.

    Regards
     
  11. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your
    I changed defective PCB card by new one but I can't find MOBO card
    There is only processor card
     
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    Processor board = is MOBO

    Merry Christmas
     
  13. MRTYMM

    MRTYMM Senior Member

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    Thanks for your reply
    The card called
    EFISYSTEME CMC16
    Sn 972431

    Which Ic is the cpu in the attached picture
    Which ic is the rom IMG_20201227_132445.jpg
     

  14. CHOCK

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    Hi sir:
    The IC ROM, is NOT the CPU.

    I believe is the big IC readomg: MEMTECHNS

    Happy New Year.