hp Indigo 5000 tariling edge paper wrinkles

Sergio Serge

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Hello every one am having a problem with 60# uncoated text paper one side printing wrinkles in the trailing edge the end of 12x18
i did the following
adjusted the bukle
perfector adjustment impression paper adjust thickness
adjust paper thikness
Note only in the trailing edge the end of the paper here is pictures it start like 6 inches before the edge
 

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Hello Sergio, I see you have done adjustments and you have a well expertise to get your printings in good condition, but I actually believe the problem is with the paper itself, I've seen that problem many times and I still see it sometimes. The humidity in the air deforms the paper, specifically on thin substrates like that, so once humidity gets there, you won't get rid of it unless you get a fresh and new cut of paper, and print it as fast as you get it in to your press room. That's the reason I tell the cutter operator to cut my material just before I'm about to work with it. In any case if get my paper cut but I won't use it soon, I cover the paper with something heavy to keep it as flat as possible.

But why on the trailing edge? while the sheet is deformed by humidity, when it gets to the impression drum, and your sheet is taking form on the drum, any amount of air between the drum and the sheet, comes out from the trailing edge, when your paper is in good condition, the air comes uniform as the surface is flat, but when your paper has humidity and surface is not longer flat, the air in there doesn't get out of there uniform, marking that wrinkles. However you can minimize (but not solve totally) the issue by lowering the temperature of your Blanket, and if possible the IMP drum too!

I hope you solve it.
 
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  • Hello Sergio, I see you have done adjustments and you have a well expertise to get your printings in good condition, but I actually believe the problem is with the paper itself, I've seen that problem many times and I still see it sometimes. The humidity in the air deforms the paper, specifically on thin substrates like that, so once humidity gets there, you won't get rid of it unless you get a fresh and new cut of paper, and print it as fast as you get it in to your press room. That's the reason I tell the cutter operator to cut my material just before I'm about to work with it. In any case if get my paper cut but I won't use it soon, I cover the paper with something heavy to keep it as flat as possible. But why on the trailing edge? while the sheet is deformed by humidity, when it gets to the impression drum, and your sheet is taking form on the drum, any amount of air between the drum and the sheet, comes out from the trailing edge, when your paper is in good condition, the air comes uniform as the surface is flat, but when your paper has humidity and surface is not longer flat, the air in there doesn't get out of there uniform, marking that wrinkles. However you can minimize (but not solve totally) the issue by lowering the temperature of your Blanket, and if possible the IMP drum too!

    I hope you solve it.
    Yes ,100% right humedity can creat wrinkles and jam ,most of the ext 80 and 100 work fine in my machine thank you
     
    Moisture or Relative Humidity (RH) in the air gets absorbed by porous paper and can change the size and shape of paper, no longer flat.
    If the paper is flat, the outside edges will be the same length as the center. You can check this my measuring the length of outer edge vs center or by folding outer edge to center to see if it's shorter (tight edge) or longer (wavy edge). Putting weight/pressure on top of the load/stack only helps slightly. You really need to protect the paper edges from exposure to air by using a vapor barrier wrap. That's why a ream of office paper is packaged in wax paper or plastic film. Best practice is to unwrap paper just before printing.
     
    I used to work with this paper for years same brand never crosseed this issue , dimension of the paper is ok same size from trailing edge to the leading ,only issue even if it's not showing in the paper is a waved end due to a saturation as you been explaining ,i decided to return the paper
     
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