env. feeder help

Discussion in 'Ryobi Printing Presses' started by ryobirookie, Mar 7, 2010.

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  1. ryobirookie

    ryobirookie Member

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    I'm using an Astro env. feeder and have trouble with feeding doubles and alot of inconsistant feeding such as jams, having to stop and start alot . Just when i think i can speed press up another problem comes up. Can anyone coach me on how to set up correctly on this Ryobi Ha 3302?
     
  2. VanQuill-Printing

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    I may have the solution for you.

    I had the same problem setting up our astro to our 3302. I had no clue even where to start, i had astro send me a demo DVD on setting it up, it was extremely helpful. If i can find that DVD around i can send that to you. If i don't have it Astro should be able to provide that for you.
     
  3. Printerforlife

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    I run the same press and we also have an envelope feeder. I only put it on for envelopes that you cannot stack more than 250 in the feeder. If you are running # 10's or something like them set the feeder up with no air just vaccum with one copper finger on the flap side you should be able to stack most envelopes 500 at a time. The table height can vary depending how much air is in the envelopes.The less the better.I can run all day long at 8000-9000per hour. This save on walking back and forth more than you think. Good Luck
     
  4. ryobirookie

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    Thanks for your input, since I've had more practice setting up the feeder and lots more env. orders since the last time I wrote in I've learn to correct my problems however what advise do you have for building up the image on my blanket. I print quite a bit on the env. seams and so the only thing that i know to do is use the gel that swells up the blanket, is their a special blanket for env. that I can buy?
     
  5. FFR428

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    That's one of the shortcomings running env's the 3302. The blanket is sensitive to pressure. That said I keep a old set of blankets and underpacks and change them to run env's. With all the different dies and seams on env's I just use blanket fix. I try to keep the blanket pressure on 2.5 - 1.5 depending how beat the blankets are and quality of the envelopes. And some colors will show the env seams in the image. Kind of a pia. Presses that have a bottom cyl adjustment like the Multi or some Hamada's will net a better impression. But the 3302 register is dead nuts for multiple pass work plus the automation. I don't have a env feeder but can run 500 #10's each lift. And leave the press running @idle to reload. So it's not that bad. I used to run a 660 Hamada w/Sandco env feeder with a faster variable speed pulley I retrofitted. Went from 9500 iph to 13.000 iph. Silly fast and use to have someone catch and box to keep up. I ran 80.000 #10's in 6.5 hrs where it used to take well over 8 hrs.
     
  6. Printerforlife

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    There are many blanket that work for Envelopes. I use a 5 ply compressible without packers. These work for envelopes. You need a seperate set for envelopes. The problem with the compressible blankets you lose some quality when printing a flat sheet. When printing the Envelopes the plate to blanket pressure is more important then blanket to cylinder pressure. Hope this helps.
     
  7. awilcox

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    have you tried sticky back blankets for envelopes, our duplicator operators use them and love them. They are not a full blanket just a piece with a sticky back to adhere to the blanket cylinder.
     
  8. Printerforlife

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    In reguards to the sticky back blankets are they easy to use. Can you use them only once and do they come off easy.We don't run envelopes a lot of time when we do it is a pain to switch all 4 blankets. I think just sticking small squares on would be time saving.
     
  9. awilcox

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    yes they are easy to use and you can peel them off and use again another time.
     
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    are you printing 4cp? I'm not sure how sticky backs would do, but its worth a try.
     
  11. Printerforlife

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    I am printing 4 color. I can't seem to find a vendor for them do you know of one?
     
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    Try Day International.
     
  13. ryobirookie

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    I'm having problems with 10x13 env creasing any suggestions on how to prevent this,thanks.
     

  14. Eric

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    put a piece of masking tape on bottom cylinder where image problem happens. works every time
     
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