Can imagepress C1 use as Photo Album production machine?

[nelsmy]

As subject, anyone can share with me, did Canon Imagepress C1 suitable for Photo album market other than color proofing? I am concern about the print out quality.

All the time i don't like to use digital copier to print photo because as long as it print human, it look so bad... anyone have any idea about that? can anyone share with me your personal experience on using this machine, because i am planning to invest on this machine.

Your suggestion is valuable to me. Thank you

 

[xpquickprint]

The only real answer is to get some print samples from your equipment vendor from your files to see if it will meet your needs.

Personally I don't think the imagepress or any current 4-color laser matches the smooth tones or finish quality of an 8-color epson pigment inkjet print, but the cost per print and very slow print speeds of 8+ color inkjets puts them out of the running for this kind of project.

 

[nelsmy]

what you mean not even those high end such as HP Indigo, Xerox IGen3 etc... can do this job? Hope anyone who have this machine can share something to me, no matter is good or bad.. because previously i have purchase a konica but at the end it totally can't meet my need.

Thank you ...

 

[xpquickprint]

I'm not sure how the Indigo compares in tonal smoothness or if there are any print longevity issues compared to the toner based machines. That would be interesting to hear some feedback on -- I'll be keeping an eye on this thread. We don't hear much about Indigos here.

I think most customers would be happy with the Imagepress, NexPress, IGen3, etc. as long as they don't see the results side by side with a $3 print. I'm not sure if you as the photographer/artist would be happy though.

 

[C_MYK_Run]

We are currently using an imagepress c1 to create photobooks. The image quality is outstanding, but remember, your pictures and the resulting quality is a direct result of the file you're using. If you're using low res images, you'll get low res output. The quality will not match that of a wideformat photo/poster printer, however the skin tones on this machine are the best I've seen for a digital copier printer. The added bonus is, your running costs are a fraction of what it would cost to do the job on an Epson, HP or even Canon photo printer, plus you can do double sided output. Try getting samples on paper types of varying glossiness and thickness. Our customers don't mind the difference, especially since we can afford to lower our price a tad.

 

[nelsmy]

WOW... what a good printer...
BTW, can canon imagepress c1 print on 300gsm media, such as postcard?
Do you mind to share me which brand of perfect binder that you are using?

Thank you!

 

[Blanca]

Actually the Imega Press is really god quality we have beenn using it for a coupleof months now, Canon is has usually worked fine for us and as we own a couple of printing machines we decided to try it out. The printing quality is very clear if you need more info i found this article very useful: Canon's entry into the digital colour production printing market, the imagePress C7000VP

 

[icem70]

commending C-MYK

Although it's very far from your date of conversation, I still want to commend C_MYK to address the answers from this forum. He explained it very well the comparison without compromising the needs of a client. thanks man!

 

[bestrepro]

Although it's very far from your date of conversation, I still want to commend C_MYK to address the answers from this forum. He explained it very well the comparison without compromising the needs of a client. thanks man!

What printer do you have icem70? you have ac1? Are there how many installations in the philippines?

 

[bestrepro]

The quality will not match that of a wideformat photo/poster printer, however the skin tones on this machine are the best I've seen for a digital copier printer.

I disagree with the skintones, it is very rough and grainy. The color maybe good enough but on the other environment like grainines it is still needs improvment

 

[icem70]

I disagree with the skintones, it is very rough and grainy. The color maybe good enough but on the other environment like grainines it is still needs improvment

You can never compare the quality of a toner based printer fom an inkjet, although it is true...the grain and skintones. But have you tried using the machine with a high end server like Server Q1? You can achieve the satisfaction that you want, doing skintones. In our country, printouts from this machine are being used by many printers producing photo books and the clients liked it.

Please note that, still the quality of any machine varies from the needs of a client. It's in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Elc]

You can never compare the quality of a toner based printer fom an inkjet, although it is true...the grain and skintones

Is it because the toner particles can't be made as small as the pigment particles in an inkjet (and why can't they?)

Or is it because adding colors to a laser makes it more difficult to maintain registration through fusing the toner stack?

 

[bestrepro]

You can never compare the quality of a toner based printer fom an inkjet, although it is true...the grain and skintones. But have you tried using the machine with a high end server like Server Q1? You can achieve the satisfaction that you want, doing skintones. In our country, printouts from this machine are being used by many printers producing photo books and the clients liked it.

Please note that, still the quality of any machine varies from the needs of a client. It's in the eye of the beholder.

Images/photos deserve a smoother skin and shadows but sharp details and hair strands. Your server Q1 is the same server used by fuji xerox and Oce. Imagepress C1 can only give you 1200 x 1200 while FX can offer up to 2400 x 2400. Oce has just passed the FOGRA Certification which is the ISO 12647-7 using the lastest media wedge. This means a superb quality and satisfaction. Imagepress c1 maybe good for short run but not for photo album. Inkjet or photo lab is still best.

 

[icem70]

yup...I agree, truly FX does the 2400 x 2400, but have they noticed the dpi is just interpolated? or rather 1200 x 1200 true dpi used by Canon IPR C1 is on a 5.5 micron....do FX has this grains?

Yeah Oce' has this certification, good for other region as yours but too bad in our region, they only have distributors and they cannot or doesn't know how to use or maintain it (doesn't serve the purpose). only few here is ready for certification, only big printers.

I'm just sharing the scenario here. Hav a nice day!

 

[bestrepro]

the 2400 x2400 of FX is not interpolated. if you are familiar with ugra/fogra PS wedge, you would know the resolution of the printer. Can imagepress produce an ISO printing? Acquiring a printer that produce ISO printer has always an advantage. if the end user is knowledgeable with CMS it serves its purpose.

We also know that service engineers of imagepress has a problem with colors as complained by others here in the forum.