Chinese Guillotine Cutters

Discussion in 'Cutters and Trimmers' started by indolering, May 25, 2009.

  1. indolering

    indolering Member

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    I saw this on ebay, and well, damn- $2,000 for a 19" fully programmable cutter!

    But, of course, it is a 19" fully programmable cutter for $2,000- what is the long term reliability going to be like?

    Has anyone tried these?

    Thanks,
    -Zach Lym
     
  2. Klippers

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    Not a bad price, but I personally would be a little cautious about a Chinese-made cutter. I'm not saying everything made in China is crap, but I haven't had a lot of good luck personally.

    You can't go wrong with the German-designed and made guillotine stack cutters, such as the Ideal (MBM) Triumph brand. But they do cost more. I guess you have to weigh your options and risk on that one. ;)

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    Good luck!
     
  3. Jeff

    Jeff Senior Member

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    Just looked at your offizezone site -- the MBM EP 18.876" cutter retails for 4.4545x the price of that Chinese programmable model. Kind of eye opening that with $500 shipping for each, you could get almost 4 of these Chinese machines for the price. But, I remember my first try at cutters - first got a manual guillotine and remember one job I called customer to tell them their last-minute job was almost ready so they were on their way to pick it up, then went to lift the clamp. The clamp wheel was so stuck that I had to disassemble the machine to get the stack of prints out! Also got one with a lever clamp - that one was great except that the blade was held in place by two allen bolts which squeezed two steel blocks against the blade to allow for adjustment. It was all manual. The problem? I sheared the bolts on the first machine. Bought another because it was so cheap.Then I had two machines that no matter how tight I tightened those bolts (and even stronger replacements) the blade would move so I'd have to reset it about once a week. An "almost" straight cutter is extremely costly. I think I'd go used for a quality unit before risking it sight unseen... hope someone else gives it a try (it's someone else's turn!) and reports back though on how those discount cutters work. It would be nice to have a second unit as a backup.
     
  4. Klippers

    Klippers Member

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    I'm curious to hear how they work as well.
     
  5. choco

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    I checked out the link and saw that the chinese cutter is 1400USD/1700USD. is it already discounted? I'd be interested, too.
     
  6. k_graham

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    I bought a Chinise electric cutter of 52cm width, Cuting height of 6 cm, with full extra things such as the link "Indolering" posted. I use it a lot, I have it since summer and I have made 13000 cuttings with no problem.

    However you have to be veru careful at the following. The press has two openings on it, like windows One left, one right. After the cutting, as the press goes up, your fingers sould not come close to the press, because you will miss your finger.
     
  8. easiprint

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    I looked at these a few months ago, as my trusty old Morgana needed some welding to fix it. I spoke to my engineer, who advised me to stay clear of these. He said they are fine for an office environment where they would only do a few cuts a day, but they are not up to a professional printing companies needs. My engineer told me one of his customers had one, and he was called out to it because it would not cut in the middle. The engineer told me that what had happened is the bed in the middle had bent and bowed down, so the blade reached the bed at each end, but was not reaching the bed in the middle.

    I had my Morgana repaired and am glad I did.

    Simon
     

  9. auchprinting

    auchprinting Senior Member

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    I just had my Seybold repaired by the people who sell and repair the Chinese cutters. He said they are not good quality and tend to be rickety.
     
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