I changed the faulty EAK card - the machine displays disturbance Q44

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  1. wandeyiz

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    Hello friends, I need help.

    Since I changed the faulty EAK card of the SM74-4, the machine screams and the lubrication; by changing the card, the configuration, and back to the lubrication system in oil, it detects error Q44

    I had to check 15fem64 to get the hang of it. Now the machine starts but the grease gun does not start

    I need help - thanks
     
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    Hi sir;

    Hope the Christmas was good.

    Please Reset the circuit breaker Q44, since it has tripped.

    Let me know.
     
  3. wandeyiz

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    thank you for your attention
    happy new year 2022 full of success

    The machine is wrong, I checked the electric box. The Q44 circuit breaker does not exist on this version. I see the Q47 the lubrication is made with grease; the machine is wrong, or the new card does not correspond. If it is the case what should I do?
     
  4. ashok kumar

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    Hi
    It seem your machine varient code has been changed accidentally during card chaging .
    Had you check SAK2 of other machine Or your card on other machine.

    Now you have to change the varient code of the machine. Then this error will go off
     
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    Hi Sir:
    Happy New Year.
    I bizarre that does Not appear4 according with Schematic diagrams electrical.
    However you must Reset any Circuit breaker, if You are dure, does existe un control box.
    No Is the best way in order, to Does Not waste the Time + money.

    Use the " Common Sense" the most invaluable tool" x to ser if there are loose wires, corroded, or break, or circuit breaker faulty.

    Let me know sincerely

    Blessing
     
  6. Adil

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    The oil pump breaker is tripped if you say you don't have the Q44 then you have to look for the lubrication pump breaker
    Good luck
     
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    Hi Sir:
    Happy New Year.

    I BELIEVE IS bizarre that does Not appear according with Schematic diagrams electrical.

    However you must Reset any Circuit breaker, if You are NOT Sure, in the control box.

    Is the best way in order to fix it , Does Not waste the Time + money.

    Use the " Common Sense" the most invaluable tool" x to see if there are loose wires, corroded, or break, or circuit breaker faulty.
     
  8. wandeyiz

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    good evening friends, the machine is configured with the grease lubrication system see diagram 1
    protective circuit breaker Q47, lubrication motor M47
    instead of the oil lubrication system protective circuit breaker Q44 motor M44
    diagram 2
    Now after installing the new card, fault Q44 no no the machine uses Q47.
    as Mr Kumar says I believe it is the variant code that is affected.
    please help me reset these variant codes
     
  9. Adil

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    Give me the serial number of the machine. The year of production and the type of machine. Or just send me the nameplate.
     
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    thank you for your attention
    here is the nameplate
     

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    Okay.
    So I think you have a low stack sm74-4.
    The problem you are having is an accidental change in the variant key
    There are two types of lubrication.
    Oil lubrication is for machines of more than 4 groups with high pile
    And grease lubrication is for machines less than 4 groups
    So that's why I noticed that your sm74-4 machine has low delivery and it's up to you to confirm.
    Then check the variant key and make sure that there is 4 groups
    Also make sure your machine has a low delivery the problem will be solved.
    Let me know .
    NB: according to the connection diagrams Q44 for oil lubrication and Q47 is for grease lubrication, therefore changing one of these two parameters causes this problem and the machine is disturbed
     
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    Yes
    indeed as you have noticed
    the machine is configured with 4 printing units and at low reception, lubrication is done with grease via Q47 instead of Q44
    oddly when changing the faulty EAK card, the machine shows a Q44 fault which is not in the box,
    this the variant code which is affected, help me
     
  13. Adil

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    Enter the variant key and modify what I told you
     
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    how to proceed ?
     
  15. ashok kumar

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    This is I has already told you in my previous reply that accidentally varient code has been changed.
    There will be a page in main pannel also for varient code
    Do you have eam in cptronic Or fam/fem connetor in cptronic.
    Once you confirm then I will tell you how to change the varient keys
     
  16. Adil

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    You have to enter service mode and then change the parameters
     
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    thank you
    the machine model is configured with fam / fem connector in cptronic
     
  18. wandeyiz

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    thank you friends
    thank you Mr Kumar I waited for your answer to be able to adjust the variant code.
    I find a temporary solution that I would like to share and ask your opinion, as the machine does not give hand because of the Q47 fault, I connected the +1 to FEM47, the machine gave hand. But after some time the machine lubrication problem signal. I check the lubrication motor does not start, then I connected +1 to FEM30 AND FEM31 and the lubrication motor started, now the machine is in production, but there is the lubrication beep and the interface which flashes and displays pressure 12Bar.see screenshot
    otherwise the machine is in production
    I would like to know if it would have any inconvenience,
    If yes, suggest me some solutions,
    I'm listening thank you for your help
     

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    Please it is forbidden to start the machine with this method.
    Because the machine is running temporarily but after 72 hours the speed will be limited to 8000 rpm at most and if you still run with this problem it will go down to 3000 as a safety measure until it stops.
    And there to be able to start the central lubrication and purge the circuit you must be obliged to start the machine which will be blocked for safety measure
     
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  20. ashok kumar

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    Hi
    Need some clarification
    As per pix you have both lubrication oil as well as grease.
    Can you pls confirm in your machine both are there

    Based in your feedback I will send you some more information
     
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