Activation of Axis Control on Heidelberg SM-74

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  1. Atishay

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    Hi,
    I have recently purchased a used SM-74 2010-2011 model for colour printing. The machine was properly installed by the engineers and is now in production. The machine has 5 colour units plus one unit for the coater.
    However, my operator is facing issues in using the AXIS CONTROL feature of the machine because of some technical issues which cannot be identified. I would urge help from the members on the forum so that I can get handy with my machine and use its features properly.
    Below are the two images attached which portray the current situation of the axis control on my machine.
     

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  2. ashok kumar

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    What are the issues you are facing with axis control(gen 2)
     
  3. Adil

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    The green light means that the control axis is active and you can use it. But in relation to the use, you need training on this accessory because there is a lot of handling to know.
    I noticed that you have a red light that declares an error on the cp2000 (91). Press the red button to see what problem it is.
     
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    Si vous souhaitez réinitialiser le système de contrôle, procédez comme suit :

    Dans le menu principal, appuyez sur la touche Clé de diagnostique
    Cliquez ensuite sur systèmes de mesure optique
    Après sur commande directe
    Et enfin appuyez sur la flèche de réinitialisation du système
     

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  5. Atishay

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    I would like to know the operations of the same and how can it get ready for scanning purposes. After the rebooting of the machine is done, it doesn't move and stays at one place.
     
  6. Atishay

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    The red button problem is resolved. The issue I am facing is that on the page of AXIS COTROL there is no activity, none of the functions work which can also be seen in the photo.
     
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    What is this reset for sir? Is it for the machine?
     
  8. Waqas_zahid

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    Hi,

    Which color strip are you using currently on the job? Do you have a color control bar on the sheet? Would like to see a picture of the job.

    Secondly on the screen you shared there is a yello warning sign on the reference value tab on the right, that means you haven't selected a reference yet do to diagnosis and then optical measuring system and see if anything is selected in the color archive menu send a picture of this menu to check whats wrong
     
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    The color archive should look something like the attached picture these are reference densities that the axis control is going to follow, pls note you'd we better off hiring an instructor who could train you on the axis control, there are alot of technicalities involved, different surface boards have different reference values, there is a different way of handling process and special colors and everything must be understood to get a good result, the axis control must be allowed to complete its follow up and no zones must be touched manually while it is working.

    Your axis control seems to have initialized properly and there is no problem with it except for the required necessary operational knowledge.

    Color bar is also an important topic, the axis control reads only color bars which are laid out according to proper specifications. It cannot read the printed image itself.
     

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  10. Atishay

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    Sir, the below image depicts the sheet I am using and the colour strip located at the top of it.
     

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    This operation is for resetting the axis control system, if you have a blockage or an error.
    If you want to use the axis control you need several parameters then I advise you to follow the instructions of the axis control catalog to do a little handling training
    If you have any problems afterwards do not hesitate to ask them and I will give you solutions.
    But at the beginning it is necessary to know the procedure of starting of the system of control suddenly a little training is necessary
    Good luck
    ;)
     
  12. Atishay

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    Thank you so much, Mr Adil. I will first reset the Axis Control and then probably will follow the steps further in order for me to use the axis control on my machine.
     
  13. Adil

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    Did you configure the colorimetric system when starting the job?
    You have to define the search area. The height of the band. And after measure the color of the print media and define the type of the tape measure which will be closer than your measurement by a percentage greater than 90%
    Then you can do a scan with laxis control and it gives you the current reading value
     

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  14. Atishay

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    Sir, I am not the operator of this machine. As far as the setting of the values shown or mentioned in the chat, I am not aware of the same. Also, my axis control page allows me to perform no functions on it. Can you help me on how to start the same from the very basic?
     
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    It is also necessary to ensure that the measuring tapes that you use on the printed sheet are suitable for the type of your machine.
    Here is a model attached
     

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    To do a training on 'axis control .c is a 10 day course to understand all the parameters and apply them, but if you have the axis control instruction catalog you can start step by step
     
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    Le document que j'ai partagé n a pas de copyright , c'est juste un catalogue d' instructions pour la manipulation de l' axe de contrôle , et ça a été livré avec ma machine xl75 lors de l' achat chez heidelberg .
    Alors c'est un simple document pour le service client .
    Merci de comprendre
     
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    As mentioned, these issues you face are way more than could possible be covered on this forum. It would serve you well to bring someone in for a couple of weeks to work side by side with your press crews to train them. Even after a couple of weeks you will not have covered all there is to effectively master all of the features the press has to offer.
     
  19. ashok kumar

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    If you need operations training then we can provide the same on site
     

  20. Atishay

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    What's the procedure and the cost involved?
     
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