Agfa palladio 30

Hi just throwing up a simple query regarding our 2004 Palladio 30.

Anyone know what power rating the laser is?

We were given a brochure when we bought the kit from new (2004) that shows a Palladio (not 30) and that says the output is 5mw.

However, we've been led to believe that the Palladio 30 actually has a 30mw laser.

Anyone have any info? Is there any marking on or in the unit that might tell us?

TIA

 

Palladio

Hi Richard,

Palladio is 5MW ...It used to be called palladio 30. You can use LAP-V violet Plates only...It comes with Agfa LP-82 processor .

The Palladio II is 60 mw with improved Optics.....It can be used for Polymer as well as LAP-V Plates........As you are aware Polymer Plate have to be pre-heated first when it enters the Processor.

So I believe yous in 5mw.

Hope this will help

Regard

 

Thanks Farshad...had the Fuji rep in the other week and we took the top casing off, on inspecting the circuit board near the inner casing over the mirror on the opereator's side there is a heatsink.

Copper heatsink denotes 30mw whilst aluminium denotes 5mw...there's also a filter bolted in place just south of the circuit board, this is to alter the laser output for polymer plates.

Mystery solved.

 

hhmmmm,
Part of the story is right , part of it is wrong.
Point is : There is no 30mW Palladio.

The laser is either 5mW ( grey color ) or 60mW ( copper color ). There is no 30mW.
When the need for a higher power laser was discussed, Nichia´s highest power laser was 30mW. As such the name Palladio 30 was a logical name.
But at the time the Palladio 30 was really produced ( Drupa 2004), the power rating of that laser was already increased to 60mW. And the name was not changed.
The serial number of the 5mW Palladio´s run from 100 to 999.
The serial number for the Palladio 30 runs from 1000 to 1999.

And after the Palladio 30 , the Palladio II was "invented".
The mechanics and optics of this engine are completely the same as the Palladio 30. But due to a SW change , there is an increased productivity for 1200dpi jobs. These serial numbers start from 2000 onwards.

From an electronics point, the Palladio II is now having a PIF interface. This was changed to deal with the RoHs regulations.

Greetings
W3112

 

Now that's what this forum is all about.

Excellent info from those pro's who know inside stuff. Thanks for the posting and welcome to the forum.

60mw laser - any idea of it's duty cycle? ie how many plates can it produce (balll park) before it dies?

 

Sir,
This is a typical, but overrated question.
I don't understand why it is so often asked.
This is a visible, low power laserdiode. 60mW , not 60 W

The Laser is ON for imaging only.
There is no "standby" mode are anything similar.
So for every exposed plate , the laser is ON for approx 1.5 min.
For most engines this means you will hit approx 1000 hrs a year.
In literature you will find lifetimes from 5000, 20 000 up to 60 000 hrs.

My personal opinion ?
The laserdiode will probably not fail because of aging.
It is more likely to fail because of power spikes or glitches or bad luck.
Just like any other electronic component.


Regards
w3112

 

Overrated? Huh?

As for why the question is often asked...well, no offense intended, but clearly you aren't the one who would have to pay for a replacement. (no one will say how much a replacement laser is by the way)

As an owner I have choices to make ie paying for a maintenance contract or insuring against the risk of component failure, or saving my money. In order to make an informed choice I need to be able to assess the risks against the gains and financial implications.

Or is that unreasonable?

 

No, I don´t need to pay for the lasers.
But working on these engines is part of my job.
So I have a fairly good idea about the failure rate of these lasers.

I can easily find the number of laser replacements we have done over the last 12 months.
If I compare this to installed base , I can calculate the % of engines that needed a laser replacement in this timeframe. But to interprete this figure and to calculate a laserlifetime out of it, that is to difficult for me.
On the otherhand, some people might consider this "sensitive" data , so I have to be carefull.

This is my offer :
You look into all the data that you have, and you translate this into an expected failure rate that is comparable to my calculation. ( % / year )
And I will confirm wether the actual replacement figure is higher or lower then what you expected.
In this way i can keep my data confidential, and it will give you a good idea about the "insurance risk".
Regards

 

Well yes I can see that might be viewed as privileged info...by a paranoid

My point stands though, doesn't it?

No one will say how much a replacement laser is...well you could always pm me. I promise not to tell anyone

 

"Machine error30"

Dear friends
On my AGFA PALLADI II CTP machine "MACHINE ERROR 30" error massage. Please, help me to solve this problem.

 

Dear all
" machine error 12", on palladio 30M, can you help

 

any one can help for " machine error 12", on palladio 30M ?

 

Hi:
Normally this error 12: is
E012 Detected two
interleafs together : Check the Interleaf Buckling Sensor.

 

I just received this error on my Palladio. Where is the Interleaf Buckling Sensor located? How do I check it? Thank you!

 

The plate loads just fine and images to 70% before throwing the error code. I processed the plate anyway. The image was present, but off-center on the plate.