How to print deep blue

Discussion in '4-Color Offset Presses +' started by generalbatzorig, Jan 23, 2012.

  1. proslack

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    If this is the case, why are you asking about printing this with offset process. You might explain to the "artist" that translation to printing process will never look like the original. If the "artist" or you insist on offset printing, there are methods by which you might achieve a reasonable representation of the original. Perfect bound or saddle stitched might lead one to a different form of paper media, and open the door to specialty papers that have been suggested in the thread. Hexachrome, UV, 4color process using florescent cyan, or even a different Pantone blue as a substitute for cyan specially formulated for sequential tack. Pantone has come out with a new formula guide called the GOE system http://www.pantone.com/pages/pantone/pantone.aspx?ca=1&pg=20616. If you use a 5th color you might look into a 6th color as MetalFX stochastic dot to give the textured brush stroke in the "cobalt" background. Or double spot UV coat, the backround gloss and the subject matter a semi matte or satin using cyrel plates. There are a lot of variables depending on the project budget and equiptment available to you, as well as the "artists" expectation of the finished product. Good luck.
     
  2. generalbatzorig

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    I think proslack was right! After meditating about it for some time, I concluded that we must try the Hexachrome printing. So I started looking for some companies that does this. If I can find a good hexachrome printing company in China, it would be a lot closer to my home. But if it is not possible, the USA is another option. Do you guys know any experienced hexachrome printing company?
     
  3. generalbatzorig

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    Hi again,
    It has been very long since I started this thread. But finally I was able to make a test print using the Spot Blue colors. The quality of the blue color has improved a lot. But the tonality and the integration of the spot color with the rest of the standard colors is a mess. I have paid a lot of money to run this test. And I want it to work. If I can only solve the problem of integrating the spot color with the rest of the 4 colors, my job will be successful. Is any one willing to discuss about this further? I can provide the sample images and talk more in details. I hope there is a solution.
     
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    Without sounding too harsh, i think you are probably every printers worst nightmare
     
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    can somebody help me, how florescent ink is used for printing part or portion of an image under CMYK
    thanks
     
  7. generalbatzorig

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    I don't have an experience with florescent inks. But what I learned from printing with 5th color is this. If you are going to print parts that are gradiated and mixed with other 4 colors, you have to take the color plate angles into your concern. Each color has its own angle of coverage (although it is indescernable to human eyes). If your 5th color has the same angle as one of the other layering color underneath, it will start causing moire pattern that looks like a checker pattern. So beware of that.
    But if you are printing flourescent ink in its own without intermixing with other inks, you probably don't have to worry about the angles.
     
  8. alibryan

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    Trying to match and get approval on a specific color, on a specific stock, and with a very particular client standing right next to you as it comes off the press, can sometimes be challenging.

    But trying to match color from an uploaded photo on the internet? I wish you the best of luck...you will need it!
     
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  9. aqazi81

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    Hi Saqib,

    If your florescent is laying on process colors, try to use the screen angle of the process color that is less likely to come in contact with this florescent color.

    If the area in which you want to add florescent color, look which color has minimum coverage or even no coverage in that part.
    Suppose its cyan, you may go with the cyan screen angle.
    This will prevent Moire pattern.

    Hope this helps.

    I see you are from Pakistan, you can contact me through phone too.
    I'm from Karachi.

    Asif
    Mob# +923452166926
     
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