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Discussion in 'Xerox iGen3, iGen4, & iGen5 Digital Presses' started by Neess, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. Neess

    Neess Senior Member

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    Hi.

    I thought it could be funny to see some of the other printshops around the world.

    Please post pic or videos to this thread.

    Im starting.
    This is Lasertryk.dk in Aarhus, Denmark.

    [video]http://youtu.be/iS98scV9xEs[/video]

    Can anyone guess whats in the end of the first iGen4 in the video :)?
     
  2. Milo Wilson

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    WOW! Nice shop Nees!
     
  3. peels

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    attaching some photos of my hoarded pigsty. :)

    Mostly I exist as a "flood plain" to our normal production floor. we are a mailshop that only prints becuase we have to. LOL not a "print shop" per se. If offset or xerox cipress digital screws up color, loses client samples.. or laser dept(kodaks) ruin a bunch. etc. Then I'm the rescuer. this happens A LOT. SO I have TONS of paper sitting around. I do ALL the programming for print files.

    Business used to be DAILY print/convert/mail. we lost that work, so now, I have a just a few weekly jobs.

    my 3 printers in the photos

    - MICR dp180. it has 153 MILLION prints on it, and still kickin! dirty old beast though!

    -Igen4. probably the machine I want to dump in the ocean the least :) Can count on one hand the number of times its "let me down" usually comes through.

    -last, but DEFINITELY-the-least. DocuTech 128 HLC. highlight color. that printer is an abomination. I BELIEVE we were one of the first to get them? we had 4. then one went so bad, they gave us a brand new one. and we ditched the other 3. Took it off the prod. floor, and gave it to me. Iv'e been working on them(docu_xxx) for 10 years. And It requires advanced knowledge to keep running. Other times, It runs on pure faith. Seriously. when it breaks, try speaking in tongues, tribal dances...whatever. LOL If anyone is ever interested in discussing how to jerry rig one of those to get it to run, I'm your guy. I could go on for DAYS. :) In fact, My blue housing wire mod is held on with a paperclip and a zip tie and I'M NOT TOUCHING IT.

    L-O-L

    sorry....ranted a little.

    I am SO jealous of everyone elses shops. when I went to NY for Nexpress training, and saw it in a nice carpeted office....I wept.
     

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  4. Neess

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    Hehe how cute, a iGen with only one stacker ^^

    Jokes aside, nice to see Peels. That docutech looks wierd though.

    By the way in my video there is 3x iGen4, 1xiGen3, 1x CP800 and 1 CP1000.
     
  5. peels

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    Id LOVE to have another stacker some days.

    yeah docutech...128. aka Sorento aka scourge of the printing world? whats weird? curious. the hump on the front? that the "ingenious" color unit. I met the guy recently who designed that in. Told him I cursed his name for years, though I never knew it! haha! he said don't be mad. he was in an office once, and someone came in and told him "put a color unit in docutech" then left, so he did LMAO

    HAHA!

    yeah your shop...puts mine to shame. thats pretty bad-a$$ Maybe ill take a pic of the laser machines . I used to be in charge of them....and many times still fix or reprogram files for them.

    12 kodak digmasters. and 8 oce continuous printers.

    Our "print building" not including me, they have two Xerox cipress500 digital machines. which, everyone LOVES to shower with praise....while I'm just over here saying "well thats nice but I have to redo just about everything that comes off of those clunkers" great technology, but its just another a box with xerox on the side, at the end of the day.... I'm rarely dazzled by printing stuff. especially from the big Red X. they like to promise weird stuff. Really, we're all just putting itty bitty dots on paper. L-O-L

    IM no longer certain what offset printers we have up there. DIDDE viper, VIP, Heidelberg sheet fed.....Mark Andy.... something else too?
     
  6. Swifty2

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    WOW LOOK AT ALL THAT SPACE!!!!!! can not get a pic up ,but you can hardly walk around our shop without bumping into something,barely squeezed the igen in, never mind more then one feeder or stacker LOL..picture this ,a small bank converted to a print shop ..and we still have the vault LOL
     
  7. kingpd@businessprints.net

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    All pretty sweet shops. Plenty of space. Just put some anti-fatigue mats down in front and you're good to go.

    That's the first I've seen 4 stackers on the docutechs. I knew it was possible but never actually seen that set up.

    What kind of jobs do most of yous do? books/catalogs, direct mail? etc.
     
  8. peels

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    Actually we had 12 docutechs with 4 stackers at one time. 6 when I started here. then they were gradually replaced by Kodak digimasters, which are WAY better suited to multi drawer feeding. eventually only having 4.

    WHich then we had replaced with 6 docutech highlight colors at one time. I spent my entire day going from one to the next working on fault codes and "blue streaks" it was a terrible time in my life. but I credit it with most of my abilities to repair printers.... and deal with Xerox's flavorful brand of BS. :)

    just ditched the last highlight color last year, a micr docutech with 2 stackers is all we have left.

    The business was/is multi sheet Notepads with labels.. by the millons.
     
  9. kingpd@businessprints.net

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    Wow that's a lot of volume! Whatever happened to your docutechs? So would you recommend investing in older docutechs (non HLC) or digimasters?

    I've heard rumors of a parts/supplies scarcity with the digimasters but a rep from Kodak I know didn't mention any problems. Then again, Xerox has been known to have supply shortages too.
     
  10. peels

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    we have 12 digis now. had 16 at our peak. I know of no issues as far as parts.. And from experience, I'd recommend them. I enjoyed working on them, they have a good UI for maintenance-error investigation. BUT, and its a big one. we have on site coverage as part of our contract...so that skews my answer. Service will be your big decider....

    where they went....I'm assuming xerox remanufactured them. as much as they could anyways, my machines were jerryrigged to the hilt.

    long story short.

    Xerox will likely be cheaper/faster. many parts easier to fix(though thats in part due to its large size. As long as you arent throwing many types of paper at it. Xerox say its 8pt max. that's a lie, dont do it. :)

    Say you're only doing letters, Xerox will win every time. (again subjective to service)

    If you plan on many types...slick,perfed,textured,heavy cover stocks, Kodak is your machine. They have a solid transfer system, and their feedheads and drawers are more adaptive. whereas Xerox has a floppy mylar blade transfer(junk) and the drawer is a 25 year old design. it works...but again, its an old dog. :) also, Duplex, that nod goes to Kodak. i hate the duplex of a docutech.



    I could babble on for days about this-its my life for the last 14 yrs... more questions-fire away.
     
  11. kingpd@businessprints.net

    kingpd@businessprints.net Senior Member

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    I may be the owner of a docutech at some point here. Either way I'll definitely pick your brain on them. Mostly I'm not totally familiar with the "unique" way that Xerox does things, e.g., their odd annual license/diagnostic thing and their own words for things like corotron for a corona wire/grid.

    Btw, how do you feel about the Xerox Highlight Color Series? :p haha.
     
  12. peels

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    haha dont even get me started. :)

    good luck.

    just so happens my docutech is experiencing on of those fun errors now... It'll run flawlessly for months...(well small problems remedied by me of course) now, its a developer fault, and been down 3 days now. Power supply bad, had a bad belt, flawed from factory.. then power supply. they sent one, a supposed "refurb" and IT was also bad. 3rd tech scratching his head now. these are the days id say NOOOOOO get a kodak! LOL
     
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