Movement of first 2 units

Discussion in '4-Color Offset Presses +' started by eltitcho, May 21, 2015.

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  1. eltitcho

    eltitcho Member

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    Hi. we have a 4 colour b3 press and it runs ok but when we use all 4 units the image of the first 2 units is moving (like a double image). we've set all the grippers and they are fine but we cant seem to find out the problem. the units have a double impression cylinder (1 for units 1 and 2 and another for units 3 and 4) if that helps????
     
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    is this press a ryobi 3304?
     
  3. eltitcho

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    no its a sanxin yk524 similar to a gronhi
     
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    I don't know about the press that you mentioned but it is normally caused by worn grippers or cam follower, Gripper timings should also be correct.
    Check the cam followers and cams.
     
  5. Taymour

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    Image Doubling

    It cant be traced without knowing the condition of doubling and where it is appearing. As sir A.Kazi said grippers can be the major reason behind it but if u have already done that then check your blanket backings. are they all of correct thickness and condition and it can also be caused by too wavy substrate.
    Rgds
    Taymour
     
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    Could you tell me if the doubling is on all sheets or it's one sheet ok and then the other not good...
     
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    the doubling is every other sheet. there is a double image on the left of a good image then the next sheet its the right of a good image
     
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    how do you check the cam followers?
     
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    check them for excessive play or hair cracks.
     

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    Hi Eltitcho,here some guides which I hope will help you because many factors can cause Doubling in press.
    As everyone said try to check - the grippers/cam follower
    Improper transfer image blanket/plate - over/under packing-adjust correctly or try to change another blanket (brand) if you can
    Is it with thin/thick paper?unstability - run with minimum water
    Pressure problems in press -try to verify if pressure is stable between cylinders both sides
    Is your press old? -possibility of worn bearings or gears/try to find expertised solutions

    Good luck.
     
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