Preconverted envelopes

Discussion in 'Xerox iGen3, iGen4, & iGen5 Digital Presses' started by greg0535, Oct 31, 2013.

  1. greg0535

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    Has anyone had any luck in printing preconverted envelopes on an igen 3 or 4?
    I've been able to get a few hundred off either machine, but have not been able to do it with any consistent success.
     
  2. OkiTech

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    Hi Greg0535, sorry I don't have any opinion/experience to share but let me ask you please - where do you get these?
     
  3. greg0535

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    No idea. A pallet was dropped at my feet and I was told we needed 7000 by tomorrow. Over the course of 10 hours we've only successfully printed about 1200.
     
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    Wow, you had a productive day I see.
     
  5. MarkD

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    You are limited on the stack size in the feeder due to the angle. Even with the envelope tray fitment you can only stack around 400 at a time. Forget running to the stacker - top tray or bypass tray only. Full area coverage is a problem due to the seams

    Good Luck. The person who decided to take on the job should have asked first

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  6. Swifty2

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    Biggest problem we have had is wrinkles..you can try opening the flaps and run them and also you can
    adjust the fuser.. a little less pressure on one side...In the end for matching envelopes and stationary type jobs the wrinkles are not acceptable but for mailers they are ok(the post office beats up the env. so nobody knows the Igen did it)
     
  7. greg0535

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    Exact logic we're using Swifty. Minor wrinkles and toner drops we're letting go and blaming the post office. We've just about wrapped up the 5000, so now they're asking for another 2000. We have found that we received mixed stocks. One runs quite well the other we're having about a 5% success rate.
    Once it starts running we can run a full tray, but most of it is misfeeding right off the bat. We've built about 15 stock profiles and haven't had luck with any of them.
     
  8. Swifty2

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    LOL I have trouble somedays getting env. to feed on my Heidleberg QM46 (no env.feeder!!!)
    Take a good look at the env.....some are not square, and check out the lead edge...some have a point that makes it hard to feed in straight
    Also squish them flat..I use our cutter and crank down on them !!!!
     
  9. greg0535

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    good idea with the cutter. i'll give it a shot.
     
  10. Russ1775

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    what size envelopes are you running ? what is the envelope tray fitment?
    Thank you
     
  11. peels

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    sorry, late to the party....

    I had some mixed results with envelopes. Was like my first month over here... ZERO training.

    mine were 12x9, with the opening on the 9" side. My problem came with the flap catching. so...what I did:

    PRE OPENED all the envelopes. ran with the bottom as the lead edge, and the flap as trail. and changed paper size to allow for the flap. It ran without major fail. beside a few feeder failures...and one or two registration failures (skew)

    it took a long time to open them though. I wanna say it was 1200....NO WAY i would duplex them....

    they sat flatter in the tray, and even stacked "OK" no wrinkles
     
  12. greg0535

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    The envelopes were 9x12. Didn't have thee luxury of an envelope fitment tray. Built a rig by cutting a three ring binder on our cutter. it took 30 hours but we got them done.
     
  13. LeeB

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    I see the genius of print shop ownership is nation wide. "Here you never done this before, I need 100000000 by tomorrow! You just hit the print button right? A monkey could do that. Your over paid!"
     
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    Your boss and my boss must have gone to the same management school in respect to Monkeys ability to pres the start button. To this day he has not been able to find a single Monkey to do what I do. If he does, I'm not sure if he would work for peanuts or should I say bananas.

    Angel
     
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    I am a monkey. I push buttons.
     

  16. greg0535

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    Little update. We tried several different brands of envelopes. The first few were all crap and would not run reliably. Once we found the right brand (Seville) we screamed through these guys at about 100 per minute by filling the tray, getting rid of the rig I made and running them flap down, closed and toward the print engine.
     
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