xerox 550 or xerox 700

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  1. valdez

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    Hi, im going to be purchaseing a new digital printer. Im currently running a small print company www.valdezignprint.com. And looking to upgrade my current printer docuclor 242. But what should i go for. I want a machine that will be future proof and that last as my business grows. I was think of going with the xerox 700. But my sales rep is telling me that the 550 is nearly the same and 10,000 euros cheaper. So i need some advice. Is he telling me the truth or just trying to sell me the 550? Please if anyone can give me the pro and cons on the two machines from a printers prospective it will help me alot.
     
  2. Milo Wilson

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    The 550 would be the better choice. The 700 had a lot of issues when it was released but were corrected, for the most part, when they made the 550.
     
  3. valdez

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    So the 550 is the same machine nearly? Or better? And thanks for the reply milo.
     
  4. xfactor printing

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    The 550 is 2 years newer in it's release date.
     
  5. valdez

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    So the quality and the technology on the 550 is better? Is there a newer version of the 700 or one in the same price braket thats better?
     
  6. Milo Wilson

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    What are you wanting to run? What kind of volume? I soul say get a used docucolor 5000. It would be a better price and runs heavier stock better.
     
  7. jimzenglish

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    The 550 is more limited than the 700 in that you can't setup custom stock profiles from within the UI like you can on the 700. I don't think you have any skew adjustment on the 550 which you do on the 700, this is useful as heavy stock tends to skew alot on both machines. With the 700 you can compensate for that. Also I think the 700 would have better registration than the 550, especially if you go for the bulk bins.
     
  8. valdez

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    Just a question, whats a good price to pay for xerox 700?
     
  9. xfactor printing

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    In the range of 1100 a month depending on options and rip
     
  10. valdez

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    You think 5c a click is good? Or should i have gotten it lower? I went for the 700 with light production finisher.
     
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    go the cheaper one 700 is a nightmare to run, your staff member will quit on u
     
  12. jimzenglish

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    Sorry don't agree 700 is easy to run if you take time to set up paper profiles on UI first. It holds registration well and can print on a wide variety of stocks.
    Also depends on what Rip you tie to it, a standalone Fiery or Freeflow will give you a much smoother workflow and more options than a bustled rip.
    And again the 550 doesn't have skew and image transfer adjustment which are really helpful.
     
  13. valdez

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    Guys thanks for the advice. Im going to go with the 700. Good choice?
     
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    Yeah good choice. Try and get the bulk bins too they make life so much easier and give better registration.
    Make sure the trainer shows you how to set up the stock profiles through the UI, once done will make your workflow much more efficient.
    They should be showing you stuff like adjusting X/Y position, Image Transfter & Skew adjustment.
    On install also make sure the tech sets up the bulk bins registration from mechinical side so you only have to do minor adjustment on rip etc.
    Also for best colour consistency with calibration they should give you a spectometer such as ES1000 or i7.
     
  15. valdez

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    Thanks for the advice mate, the machine is coming in on tuesday. Im going to make sure they train me on that. If theres anything else you can think of please give me any advice. Im glade you posted a reply, becuase i was talking to another sales rep and he was saying i should have went with a konica minolta printer instead so my head was wrecked. So im glade you got back to me. Thanks so much
     
  16. xfactor printing

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    No need to second guess yourself once the paperwork is signed. KM and Xerox both make great printers IMO.
     
  17. valdez

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    Yeah your right. Just another rep was telling me that km can take more media types. But i love xerox. I appraciate all your advice. Im new to the printing so any advice and tips you can give me will help loads. Thanks a million
     
  18. jimzenglish

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    No problem glad give advice. The main thing I'd say is to make sure the installing tech gets the bins setup so nice and square & centred so you're not chasing your tail with each job.
    Also try and keep it simple with stocks and have a core set that run well, clients aren't really too fussy so just need a simple range of coated & uncoated weights.
    I like said before use the stock profile setup on the UI to get them tweaked and running well.
    What rip are you getting with it??
     
  19. valdez

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    I dont think i got any rip with it, just the command workstation with feiry. I will no more when i get the machine on thursday. Should i have gotten a rip? If so, what one? And can you break it down why i need one?
     

  20. xfactor printing

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    A Fiery is a RIP. You can either get the more expensive floor standing RIPs, FIERY or other, or you can get the Fiery which is bustled or mounted on the back of the machine. It's basically a lower hardware spec machine (less ram, slower cpu) and the more expensive RIPs can RIP jobs faster which comes into play if you're doing complex variable data.
     
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