Test copies???

Discussion in 'Xerox iGen3, iGen4, & iGen5 Digital Presses' started by igen3bg, Oct 13, 2010.

  1. igen3bg

    igen3bg Member

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    I have maybe a stupid for some question... Anyway can you share if you print all the test copies requiered by procedure after changing a part... or running a setup or anything. For example by procedure I have to run 2000 prints after changing a developer. And the thing is we are charged for all that as regular clicks !?! Is that the same with you?
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  2. Stiv

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    Well, I run what is required. I monitor what the counts are and submit the data to the Mgr., what he does with them or if he gets credited for them I don't know. Mostly the counts are the developer change, I don't track calibrations or other minor stuff like that.
    I believe that if the PI is loggedin as service, the counts are credited back. I'm not sure if that is true or not though.
     
  3. RMiGen

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    If the counts are credited back when logged in as service then that would be interesting.

    I have a "Fuser Temperature Too Low" active status that pops up any time I throw a cold fuser in right after a hot one has been sitting in there. The only way to avoid it is to babysit the fuser drawer and open it and close it about a minute into the heat up cycle, or logon as psp and reset it under component controls.

    I'm sure I'm not supposed to know the logon, or how to do that, but I do since it is the easiest way to reset the status without a restart or camping out next to my machine.
     
  4. Stiv

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    That "Fuser Temperature Too Low" active status is interesting. I wonder why it isn't heating it up all the way before it generates an error. I have no ideas on how to reset the status window without being at the iGen. Have you tried to bypass the fuser tray sensor and have the roll heat up while it is pulled out?
    If you log in as psp doesn't it initiate a ticket? How would you close it out? Also, it certainly would be in the log for all to see. IDK if I would do it. ;)
     
  5. RMiGen

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    I most definitely would not do it. The tech showed us how to log out of the call ticket and how to reset the active status. I definitely would not run prints while signed in under psp lol.

    The status comes from the other components in the fuser drawer being up to temp while my cold roll still hasn't reached its desired temperature. By opening the drawer and closing it in the middle of the roll heating up, it gives it enough time for the roll to reach its temperature without faulting.

    I only started noticing it after we changed our fuser roll from oscillating to static. I am unsure of the correct "scientific terms" that the tech used, we changed the way our fuser roll behaved.

    The status probably comes from us changing rolls more frequently, generally right after a 12in job has printed, we throw in the cold 13/14in roll in and get that active status.
     
  6. igen3bg

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    I get the "Fuser Temperature Too Low" almost everytime I change the Fuser Roll. Since I didn't know the psp user pass (since recently :)) I managed it by just restarting the machine. I'm also shown by the tech how to Close a call.
     
  7. ddigen3

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    The other work around...sort of....is to remove the old fuser, put in the new one & restart the PSIP only.
    And actually another option (slower as it is) is to just leave the fuser drawer open for a few minutes before pushing it back in with a new, cold fuser roll.

    ....of course, these are only solutions for the unlucky ones without the PSP login & "close a call" know-how that some of us weasels have acquired. ;-)
     
  8. RMiGen

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    I used to restart the PSIP as well but every so often I would have trouble reconnecting with the DFE. Then I'd get the shutdown everything and start it back up, all just so I could change my fuser. That's around the time the tech told me about the psp logon and it has been much smoother.

    Putting the new roll in and letting it heat up for about 60 seconds and THEN opening/closing the drawer again solves the problem. Sometimes I'd get interrupted or was just too slow and the active status would pop up on me.

    Closing a call is really easy, and I just input >Fuser>Complete>Close the call and back to printing I go :) (After the fuser takes years to heat up, of course)
     
  9. ddigen3

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    Years?!? Wow. I just throw mine in the microwave for about 30 seconds. That usually does the trick. ;-)
     
  10. RMiGen

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    I guess I'll take us back on topic.

    Do any of you know if you are charged for clicks on highly recommended/ mandatory prints? Isn't that sort of cheap lol? About 100 dollars to change my developer. Cool one, Xerox.

    I wonder what they would say if our company asked about it, or worse yet, got mad about it?
     
  11. gregulator

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    We normally run 500 clicks after a developer change and then run a job or two that is "non color critical"
     
  12. ddigen3

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    Do you mean prints that are "highly recommended/mandatory" according to Xerox?
     
  13. RMiGen

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    Yes lol. That's what I mean. Xerox wouldn't make you run prints that you shouldn't HAVE to, would they? *sarcasm*
     

  14. ddigen3

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    So you mean the maintenance prints, such as developer break-in, color calibrations, color check, etc?

    Yes we're charged for those. Cost of business you could say. What we've done however is created our own "break-in sheet". We print double-sided note pads with past client's logos and contact information (with our company info strategically placed, of course) and find a reason to deliver them. It keeps us in mind for their next print project. That way, we at least get an ROI on maintenance sheets.
     
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