Magenta or any other color spitting...this is the FIX

Discussion in 'Xerox iGen3, iGen4, & iGen5 Digital Presses' started by Swifty2, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. Swifty2

    Swifty2 Senior Member

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    we have gotten to the bottom of repeat magenta spitting

    So along with the tape fix.....Xerox has come up with a retrofit for the door/housing the developer sensor sits in!!
    What happens is the developer bridges across the sensor giving a false reading...you can turn the values down to get by and run until a tech replaces the housing but watch out for starving in the color you adjust!!!
     
  2. peels

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    cool man!
     
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    The tech comes back tomorrow because the parts are not in the locker! If we had developer and a sensor the tech could have got us up and running and retro fit the housing at a
    better time,not in the middle of a job with a dozen backed up before 10am
    !!I am real pissed off because a couple months ago
    xerox came by and emptied the lockers of sensors,developer,filters and a bunch of other" non critical parts "
    THEY THREW SOME STUFF IN THE TRASH color and B+W supplies!
    And naturally xerox is only doing the magenta..I asked why not the others...xerox answer because the other ones seem to he working ok still,Think I will put CYK freckles and streaks on some paper and tell him. do them all!
     
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    The UK lockers have just had a purge aswell. Annoying as we fought to get some of the part placed on them!! But hey these Excel jockeys know best!

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    yep same here.... love when they do that, then you need something like the next day :(
     
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    Hi guys. Haven't posted in nearly four years or so but my new employer has just taken ownership of two iGen4 Diamonds (still don't know what the diamond stands for?) but like the iGen3 and 4's I ran a few years back we are getting the same old magenta spitting problems. I would've thought by now they would have done a permanent fix for this issue!

    You mentioned the tape fix, could you elaborate on that? Also go a little more in to depth on the retrofit fix?


    Thanks guys.
     
  7. peels

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    Diamond edition=shiny and pretty but useless . LOLOLOLOL Good one Xerox.

    I feel like my Igen spitting has been based on climate. I have nothing but trouble from november through march... dry air...Igen, shes been pretty happy lately. Wires lasting....no splotches.. no weird color errors...

    Something bad is going to happen, I can feel it. :)

    I mentioned Swifty's ideas to my tech, but I dont think anything ever came of it.
     
  8. Milo Wilson

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    Hey Peels.
    Don't you have humidifiers in the location of the iGen?
     
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    No sir. I briefly had one during the winter, but someone stole it. In fact I had a "tent" built behind igen, and the back panels off to keep moisture in the paper.

    This was some seriously flimsy offset paper, that was printed on rolls for continuous printers, that we sheeted down for me to take over. It was a daily job that the quantity went down, making cut sheet xerox a better fit. THEN it went back up, and overflowed into the Igen... That paper would come out with enough charge to shock me back to 1955.

    I no longer do that job.

    I have a pretty good air conditioner so it stays cool in the summer, but thats it. It went out last year, and was 81 in here...igen gets all grumpy at about 77.
     
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    A good humidifier costs about 200.00 and they are movable. Can't they afford that at least?
     
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    LOL we have 2 of those in our shop-- along with a swiss air humidifier, and a huge fan like Disney world hve that sprays a water mist..we use this in the mornings when it is xtra dry in the winter months when it is -2% RH LOL
     
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    LOL

    thanks MILO.

    we COULD afford it. but WILL we afford it...? I doubt it. I'm told igen is moving to a purpose built room in our other building with the presses...where this wont be such an issue.

    but I'm not holding my breath. Ive been told this for well over a year.

    Honestly, I've made my name with my company "just making it work" LOL If I had the ideal climate, and met all the criteria Xerox recommended...I wouldn't know what to do with myself. Qualified paper...all that jazz. Id be bored to tears. And furthermore If it wasn't me running it, it would be useless. With our system...considering igen as an afterthought now since the advent of Xerox digital "crayon wax" web presses. You know...until someone needs something RIGHT NOW. then its a-numero-uno printer and Id better not mess up :)

    its ok frustrating as it may be, Im good at it.


    NOTE: the nexpress we had was way worse. It was a Beta mule, and literally had no systems built around it. It wasnt even vented properly....and shortly after install were chasing a overvolt/temp error for 3 weeks....finally a Kodak specialist flies in, looks at the machine(the hose out the top) and says "youre choking it put in a vent", and leaves LOL

    cheers!
     

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    LoL,we have said it before and will say it again..You can not afford, not to maintain Genies environment! Even in a perfect room the iGen
    can go crazy ! See my rip restarting on its own tread. LOL
     
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