Laminate Lifting/iGen Related?

Discussion in 'Xerox iGen3, iGen4, & iGen5 Digital Presses' started by gavywill, Jun 19, 2016.

  1. gavywill

    gavywill Senior Member

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    Hello All,

    Over the past couple of week's we've been having some laminate lifting, The Xerox iGen 150 we had serviced 2 week's ago too, Just wondering whether the iGen can come in to the reason for the laminate lifting? We are using 300gsm & 150gsm Stock & both are lifting on the darker colours. Is there something that we can change to help the laminate stick to the cover better? We have the correct fuser fluid as well.

    Thought i'd ask as there might be ways of upping the fluid to the covers.(If that'd Help?)

    Please let me know some tips that would be much appreciated.

    Many Thanks
     
  2. sirstiv

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    There is two types of iGen Fluid...

    IGEN4/5/150 NEW FUSER FLUID -2 IN 1* 008R13096R

    IGEN OLD FUSER OIL - 2 IN 1 PACK* 008R13095R

    I still have a backlog of the old stuff at my work... You can mix them, they are both usable.

    I believe one of them performs better with cello-ing/laminating and i believe that it's the older model.

    Newer one improves fusing. It's either one or the other from memory, if you've noticed a change then try the other.

    Although it may be awhile before you go through all that oil.
     
  3. MarkD

    MarkD Senior Member

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    The older stuff is better for laminating a there is less silicon in it. Down side is that the fuser roll life is decreased. Upping the fluid will make it worse. There is a low rate meter blade that can be fitted but is a special order due to the cost. Also factors like how well the meter assembly is looked after. cleaned out, oil changed on a regular bases makes a difference to laminating success.

    Another option is to leave the prints overnight to allow the oil to evaporate
     
  4. Tommy Bee

    Tommy Bee Member

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    Had the same problem until we switched to a Drylam ALM3222 laminator. Now there is no problem taking sheets right off the iGen4 and instantly laminating.
     
  5. Swifty2

    Swifty2 Senior Member

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    you can let the oil dry a couple of days before laminating!!
     

  6. Lee180

    Lee180 New Member

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    We went back to the 'old' fusing agent on our new iGen150.

    The newer fuser oil gave us laminating problems, like the problems that you are experiencing.