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  1. #1
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    XEROX 7000AP and Igen3

    Hi Everybody,

    Could you pls make advise what is about printing engine of Xerox 7000AP and Igen3. What is printing method .

    Thanks for your time advise

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    Perhaps you need to ask more specific question as both of these machines utilize dry toner xerographic process, just one higher production model than another.

  3. #3
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    I mean the Xerox Printing technology, because I dont want to use Laser printing but 7000AP and Igen3 is Laser toner printing right? we can control the teamperature of Laser head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyha View Post
    I mean the Xerox Printing technology, because I dont want to use Laser printing but 7000AP and Igen3 is Laser toner printing right? we can control the teamperature of Laser head?
    The "temperature" comes from the fuser which uses heat to fuse the toner to the paper. The laser creates the attraction for the toner.

    http://www.colorprintingforum.com/xe...ology-291.html (iGen3 vs. Docucolor technology) Doesn't directly address the DC 7000 but you might find it informative on the general technology.


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    Oh dear, are you confusing Laser Cutter and laser printer? All what laser(s) do in Laser printer is draw statically charged image on the drum, after that toner is being attracted to it, transferred on to paper and fused on it by Heating/Fusing unit. The temp. of the fusing unit can be controlled but not your desire, at some point if you wish to leave it cold - it can't happen, it need to be set less for thin materials and higher for thicker cardstocks. Why, in the heaven, would you need to think or care what temperature state of the laser unit. Who cares! - I am sure it has it's own cooling fan, let them work it out without you worry about it.

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    Thanks Unlimited,

    I want to use the Xerox 7000AP or Igen3 to print on plastic, we are small card factory and we need digital press for quick making sample. I already send sample of our PVC material to Canon Agent and they printing on ImagePress C1, if we register as the thickness PVC a 0.31mm then the laser heat will make our material broken. because the temperature of Printing heat so hot. IF we adjust thin thickness then OK but the technical of Xerox Agent told me the printing quality will not good if we deduce the stocking thickness. Pls give me your comment.

    Thanks

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    Oh, ok. Laser printing on plastics, usually, require special plastics to the best of my knowledge. So you right - can't just take any PVC and stick in to laser printer / digital press. In this case another problem could arise - feel and quality of that special plastic my be different from the one you'll print the rest of the order.
    MGI says that their machine could print on plastic but once again - not just any plastic - it has to be certified material and thickness of material is another topic.

  8. #8
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    My experience with printing on plastics on a igen3 isnt very good, it seems to have some troubles making a even transfer.

    Our xerox 800 does the job though.

  9. #9
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    Change plastic. You know how it was in the old days. Delrin ( by Dupont ) helped toner release in the cleaning housing because of it's opposite charge from toner which is plastic? There have got to be engineered plastics that take that into account. So, you must have opposite signed materials for good transfer. Not all toner is the same sign either. The Xerox 800 is chemical or grown or emulsion toner. Probably Hp and Canon offer their version of very high quality toner. Who is fixing the machine? You could fake temperature. Series a small resistor to your heat thermistor to increase temperature. Say 100 ohms. Or, you could fake coolness by paralleling a high ohm resistor to your thermistor. Say 100k and work your way down towards 10k ohms. Be careful and don't say I ever remembered how to do anything like that. You will need very, very fine toner to fuse it at a cooler temp. A machine with 2400 dot resolution should have very, very fine toner. Start there. What is your volume? That will tell you what box to use. An iGen3, 800 or 7000 would require a lot of cards to justify seeing as how Xerox is not going to madify anything. haha They will offer special materials that are tested good on their machines. Start there.

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  11. #10
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    Xerox will test your samples at the lab in Rochester to see if they will run reliably, ask your local sales person. Also, your local Xerox sales person should be willing to run test samples on any demo units they have in the area. Even the new(er) entry level Xerox 550 model uses the low melt toner/lower fuser temps, so it might do the job for you.

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