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  1. #1
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    Mar 2010
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    env. feeder help

    I'm using an Astro env. feeder and have trouble with feeding doubles and alot of inconsistant feeding such as jams, having to stop and start alot . Just when i think i can speed press up another problem comes up. Can anyone coach me on how to set up correctly on this Ryobi Ha 3302?

  2. #2
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    Jan 2010
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    Pacific Northwest
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    I may have the solution for you.

    I had the same problem setting up our astro to our 3302. I had no clue even where to start, i had astro send me a demo DVD on setting it up, it was extremely helpful. If i can find that DVD around i can send that to you. If i don't have it Astro should be able to provide that for you.

  3. #3
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    Feb 2010
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    Minnesota
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    I run the same press and we also have an envelope feeder. I only put it on for envelopes that you cannot stack more than 250 in the feeder. If you are running # 10's or something like them set the feeder up with no air just vaccum with one copper finger on the flap side you should be able to stack most envelopes 500 at a time. The table height can vary depending how much air is in the envelopes.The less the better.I can run all day long at 8000-9000per hour. This save on walking back and forth more than you think. Good Luck

  4. #4
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    Thanks for your input, since I've had more practice setting up the feeder and lots more env. orders since the last time I wrote in I've learn to correct my problems however what advise do you have for building up the image on my blanket. I print quite a bit on the env. seams and so the only thing that i know to do is use the gel that swells up the blanket, is their a special blanket for env. that I can buy?

  5. #5
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    Feb 2008
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    CT
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    That's one of the shortcomings running env's the 3302. The blanket is sensitive to pressure. That said I keep a old set of blankets and underpacks and change them to run env's. With all the different dies and seams on env's I just use blanket fix. I try to keep the blanket pressure on 2.5 - 1.5 depending how beat the blankets are and quality of the envelopes. And some colors will show the env seams in the image. Kind of a pia. Presses that have a bottom cyl adjustment like the Multi or some Hamada's will net a better impression. But the 3302 register is dead nuts for multiple pass work plus the automation. I don't have a env feeder but can run 500 #10's each lift. And leave the press running @idle to reload. So it's not that bad. I used to run a 660 Hamada w/Sandco env feeder with a faster variable speed pulley I retrofitted. Went from 9500 iph to 13.000 iph. Silly fast and use to have someone catch and box to keep up. I ran 80.000 #10's in 6.5 hrs where it used to take well over 8 hrs.

  6. #6
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    Minnesota
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    There are many blanket that work for Envelopes. I use a 5 ply compressible without packers. These work for envelopes. You need a seperate set for envelopes. The problem with the compressible blankets you lose some quality when printing a flat sheet. When printing the Envelopes the plate to blanket pressure is more important then blanket to cylinder pressure. Hope this helps.

  7. #7
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    Feb 2010
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    Virginia
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    have you tried sticky back blankets for envelopes, our duplicator operators use them and love them. They are not a full blanket just a piece with a sticky back to adhere to the blanket cylinder.

  8. #8
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    In reguards to the sticky back blankets are they easy to use. Can you use them only once and do they come off easy.We don't run envelopes a lot of time when we do it is a pain to switch all 4 blankets. I think just sticking small squares on would be time saving.

  9. #9
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    yes they are easy to use and you can peel them off and use again another time.

  10. #10
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    are you printing 4cp? I'm not sure how sticky backs would do, but its worth a try.

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