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  1. #111
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    Have all these issues been resolved? I found this thread just as I was about to sign off on a used C651ex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttopman View Post
    Have all these issues been resolved? I found this thread just as I was about to sign off on a used C651ex.
    Used 651? In terms of Image quality, the 651/751 can't be beat. The KM comes close, but has similar banding issues, that you can't service on your own. The Canon can't even be considered. The resolution quality of the canon c700/c800 isn't even close in terms of clarity and quality. I have demoed all and own a Canon and a Ricoh 751ex. If it Is used, make sure it has under a million impressions. You WILL need to service it on your own and keep an eye on the drums/charge/cleaning units. Make sure if you run into banding issues, get a tech to swap out the developer UNITS. Not just the developer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLPNYC View Post
    Used 651? In terms of Image quality, the 651/751 can't be beat. The KM comes close, but has similar banding issues, that you can't service on your own. The Canon can't even be considered. The resolution quality of the canon c700/c800 isn't even close in terms of clarity and quality. I have demoed all and own a Canon and a Ricoh 751ex. If it Is used, make sure it has under a million impressions. You WILL need to service it on your own and keep an eye on the drums/charge/cleaning units. Make sure if you run into banding issues, get a tech to swap out the developer UNITS. Not just the developer.
    Which KM? C6000/7000? All the dreadful comments on this page have got me thinking to switch to Xerox 560. I come from a strong offset background so all this talk of swinging registration, banding and constant babying is the stuff of nightmares. It's like if I get the 651 I'd be sucked into a horror movie....like Evil Dead or something....lol.
    I think I need to rethink my decision. You seem to have the most positive reviews here, are these problems really manageable, I have a tech nearby who's ready to offer my click based service. before this thread I was 90% sure I was getting the right printer, now...NOT so sure.

  4. #114
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    Hi Vividred,
    I am familiar with all three models you mention. The c651/751ex is the same engine (65 vs 75ppm) and it is different from the c901ga+ (90ppm) in many ways. They do share a common mechanical registration system which is top notch. The c901ga+ sold new for roughly 2x what the 651 sold for so you have to expect you would get more bang out of the 901ga+ for your buck. Imaging and solids are better, runs/auto-duplexes 350 vs 300gsm, larger more powerful RIP . The c901ga+ has a much heavier fuser to hold heat at the higher speed and run heavier stock, also does a better job on textured stocks. Should be able to get a better click rate on the 901ga+ as well. The 901 ga+ is the latest version of this machine (discontinued in 2015) the c901 was the first oil-less version of this machine replacing the older c900, the c901 is rated at the same 300 gsm as the 651/751. The uprades to this engine to make it a 901ga+ are software related and it is possible to feild upgrade a c901 to a c901ga+. Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttopman View Post
    Which KM? C6000/7000? All the dreadful comments on this page have got me thinking to switch to Xerox 560. I come from a strong offset background so all this talk of swinging registration, banding and constant babying is the stuff of nightmares. It's like if I get the 651 I'd be sucked into a horror movie....like Evil Dead or something....lol.
    I think I need to rethink my decision. You seem to have the most positive reviews here, are these problems really manageable, I have a tech nearby who's ready to offer my click based service. before this thread I was 90% sure I was getting the right printer, now...NOT so sure.

    It really depends on your main type of work you do and how many impressions you think you would be putting on it. PM me and I can help you out. I just went through the process of buying a new printer and understand what is currently being offered.

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