Thread: Can current model Ricohs compete with the print quality of Canon or Xerox?

Can any current-model Ricoh printers compete with the color and finish quality of current Canon Imagerunners or Xerox Docucolors?

Do Ricoh machines still run dirtier?

Ricoh's run much cleaner now. The color quality on a Ricoh CAN compete with Canon and Xerox. Ricoh has yet to release an answer to the Graphic machines from Canon or Xerox. On a business color level, ricoh is very competative.

Originally Posted by mcauley

Ricoh's run much cleaner now. The color quality on a Ricoh CAN compete with Canon and Xerox. Ricoh has yet to release an answer to the Graphic machines from Canon or Xerox. On a business color level, ricoh is very competative.

Business being the key word here. Of course it can produce good quality copies that any manager would be happy printing his TPS reports cornflower blue logo on. But quality? It's hard to compete with 2400 Dpi...

On top of that Jeff, look at service and downtime. Service is debatable but the quality of the machine is not. The last revision of their color machines were running so hot they were warping the frame! Our B+W Ricohs can't run anything but light text on 80# cover, and die anytime we put any sort of load on them. It's not a single problem, but an engineering one inherent in Ricoh's designs.

Jeff, you are a commercial printer right? Not a office manager or a designer, but someone who will be running 12x18 12pt and expect that damn machine to run correctly! Even if the image quality got up there it wouldn't fit your business model.

If you are in the NYC area and would like a demo of Savin/Ricoh machines...
I'm a dealer on Long Island. Everybody loves my fiery rip...
The Savin Portal in the city is the place to go for some hands on...
My showroom in Bohemia LI will be open after July 18... I'm not sure what machines will be there right away...
The Riso hc 5500 full color inkjet does 500k a month, variable data, up to 110 stock, 600 dpi... the direct mail marketers love it...it does a nice job for what it is.. not a hi graphics machine....but there is a market for what it is as a money maker and the operating cost is really low... msrp around 42k... there-I said it.
hit me up....
can you do private messages here....? I'm new on this site...
I have to humble myself here as I'm just a dealer...
you all can talk circles around me about quality...graphics... blah blah blah...
but I have Savin/Ricoh/Riso's...
I'm learning a lot from this forum....
thanks you goiz!

I'm a new member, but have been contempleting going for Ricoh C811dn Color Printer, Can you advise the way forward on this?

cpf, I would be happy to discuss that ricoh machine with you on Monday 9-28. I get back into town that day from vacation. I have had it for 8 months and have run a ton of clicks through it. I can give you the pros and cons easier than typing back and forth before you spend your money.

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Tony Mayhew
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RICOH's new C900 Pro Production device should satisfy all our needs - formal intro at GraphExpo. 90 ppm, 12 pt, 12x18 great. Lots of finishing available and I've been told the price point is there.

We leased a Ricoh C811DN with booklet finisher based on a review I had read and the specs, and have been very unhappy with it. The driver is very fickle, jobs rarely print right the first time through, the finisher is MUCH more limited than I was led to believe, and the counter is counting my black & white pages in mixed documents as color. If I could get out of my lease today I would. We used to use a Tektronix 840 and then Tektronix 850, and though they are different size machines, the Tektronix was MUCH easier to print with.

With all due respect the Ricoh C811dn is fine for short run color or not color critical jobs. Since the system does not have a fiery, it really doesn't have a home in print4pay.

I have two of these systems in the field at P4P's, bother are ok, but you need to know when to use them and when not to use them. As far as the meter clicking color for black prints, I'd have to see all of the driver settings for the PCL or the RPCS drivers. I have not heard of this before reading on this forum. Anyhow brings me to maintenance clicks for the C811DN, these are laser printers and they will run very well, they are not as service intensive as color digital copiers and are designed for the user to replace the consumable items. Here in lies the savings, if you have a cost per click charge that is all inclusive you're are padding the dealers wallet, all for the thought "that toner is included".

Get service as you need it and replaced consumables as needed and your cost per page could run a few cents lower than the cost per page that they are charging.

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