Help making plate please

Discussion in 'Platemaking' started by stickycreationz, Apr 7, 2013.

  1. stickycreationz

    stickycreationz Senior Member

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    I am new to printing i have a ryobi 3302 and a plate burner but no way to get the film for my image what do i need an image setter or a processor cause i am confussed with all i read about image setter, processor and rips i dont understand which it is i need please help thank you. Forgot i need to do four color process work. Maybe i need something else?
     
  2. OkiTech

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    Hi Sticky, looks like me is all you've got :)
    If you plan on setting up the film developing, Plate burning etc you'd be going back in time rather than move forward, CTP is the way and best bet is to get the one that even if / when you upgrade your press, it still can serve you well. I am sure many folks here will vouch for me saying that today's prices of outsourcing VS printing in 2 passes on small format press, outsourcing wins hands down... Look, Ryobi 3302 isn't a best equipped press to run CMYK, I am not saying it could not be done but I am saying that you need to be really good at it, and you have recently mentioned that you're new to all this... You should not have a so-so press and so-so platemaking system and so-so skills all at once, great amount of will not get you too far, don't forget the competition as not only you need to print the product, you need to be profitable and print it with quality expected...
    Machines that could output descent plates for CMYK process (Everyone else please chip in if you know more)
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/VIM-JT-Plate-System-/170837607027
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-...188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43ba2e7f0c
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/HEIDELBERG-...080?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8003cdb0
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-PRESST...086?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ec74344a6
    There is more but I tried not to go to really expensive ones..
     
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    Hi thank you i was going to get a duplicator i am only doing large church work donation not for money cartoon stuff not compotion. I was told here not to get a duplicator to get anypress is better than duplicator i just want to make plates even if i pay some to get them. Question an imagesetter does my info made on computer right? It goes to film right? Do i just take the film after out and burn it to a plate?
     
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    it is really labor intensive, unless run is really long the re is no way it will be commercially viable in any way. you would need to create image on the film, develop film - all this will include having a "dark room" with special light, than burn image from film on to plate with plate burner than develop plate, bunch of chemicals and lots of time. Even if not for profit it has to be for pleasure not for "oh my God, not again" :) if artwork is simple - some text, some simple images, HP 5100 should do it, I used it from the point I started in printing - we had opened a little print and copy center back in years, I use a Xante Plate maker 4 that cam with Toko R2 SH I had offered to you - it is a little better than HP as with HP I had to make a plate and run it second time sending a blank page to be printed to make the image last, on Xante I get 10,000+ impressions easy. The biggest problem with these is toner scatter, i.e. it puts a tiny layer of toner on background that eye can't see but once on the press it shows especially with longer runs, once again Xante is much better than HP at this as well. When I have longer runs, i have a friend with real CTP, big shop with 20x28 press, they make me metal plates when I need it - $10 per, which is fine as it last forever. I'd like to suggest - find friend like that, there is no way a normal human being should refuse to help you having means to do that - you're not competitor around the corner - you're just doing it for a church - for a good cause. If you want to print - print, try to find somebody who can make you plates on proper equipment. Film, plateburning is day before yesterday.
     
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    Why don't you disclose City/State that your're in, may be there are some forum members near-by why would be willing to help....
     

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    Good idea i will post that in a day or so thank you again
     
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