Hello Everyone, first post, so a brief introduction :- I'm an artist, not a printer, - I need to learn as much as possible about offset print because I'm heading into self publishing...and this place seems better than any. Thanks for being free with the advice, its very comforting 1) I've seen the term 5c used, what does this mean exactly? I understand 4C as CMYK. But 5C? 2) Some companies quote their print jobs as 4C/4C, - why? 3) I'm interested in gloss art paper for my project, (a graphic heavy book) - can someone advise which kind of stock (gsm) would be most suitable. Kind regards Moz
5c is 5 units usually 4c plus a spot color or varnish 4c/4c means 4 colors both sides of the sheet could be perfected or straight with a 2nd pass 80Ib to a 100Ib gloss for that project
Just to hijack my own thread, - another question. Considering the lighter stocks of gloss papers on the market, is it ever an issue that pictures on one side of a sheet interfere with the other side, ? Some of my pictures are very very dark (almost total black) and there will be luminous pictures on the other side, - I'm worried that there'll be some interference. ps.. For NotaGooner, I consulted the conversion table here >>> http://www.paper-paper.com/weight.html <<< and figure that a 130 gsm gloss art paper is satisfactory, do you agree? I just want to check I'm in the right "zone".
Yes image "show through" is a common problem on heavy coverage jobs. Depending on the quality of ths job and stock a nice 100# coated text is a good place to start with heavy coverage. Be sure to discuss this with the printer and ask for some job samples they've done on various stocks. This should help you pick the right stock for your job. Also ask to see some samples of the stock you'll be using once you pick a sheet. Some sheets are brighter than others. And you'd want to have that sorted before it's on press. If there is further concern ask to be on press when the job is being done. Being the artist you might want to be there to proof color anyway if it's critical. Just remember there is give and take.
cheers guys.... some more info on this project FFR428 - Thanks for the reply, I've asked to see samples, I'll see what comes through the post. So you say I shouldn't be looking at paper less than 147 gsm (according to the conversion table)? For your interest here are the specs I've discussed with the printer so far, >>> ------------------------------------------------ Finish book trim size: 300mm W x 250mm H (landscape- book spread size 600mm W + spine width) Cover: prints 4c x 0c (4c process) on 260gsm 2/s FSC art card + 1/s gloss lamination, cover both sides with 4" flaps Text: 128gsm Neo FSC art paper, 4c x 4c (4c process) .....interested in changing to a heavier stock now.... Binding: Perfect bound with cover drawn on cut flush ....I'm thinking perfect bound with sewn sections would be better.....? Packing: packed in kraft paper, in export corrugated export carton. ....they're travelling by sea, maybe they should be in plastic wrap?.... Shipping: 5,000 units – CIF port of Hamburg, Germany and 5,000 units – CIF port of Los Angeles, USA (Ocean Freight) port only (Shipment arrives to port only. DDC, customs clearance and inland delivery are excluded) Quantity: 10,000 copies Origination: CTP. Complete high resolution single pages (page by page) PDF files, CMYK format with fonts embed. We will to supply one set *of bluelines and digital proof for your approval. Digital files must be accompanied by a completed Preflight Review form. In an effort to reduce additional charges and schedule delays. *One set only – bluelines/digital proof are to be sent back to us for reference --------------------------------------------------------- If anyone can see any more features that I should be addressing with the printer, I would love to know. Thanks for the help, it's very appreciated
Wow! These are great tips. I'm a newbie here and I've already learned a lot of things. Joining forums really help a lot.
agree with this one choose whatkinds paper is up to your size and the total pages ? also how to binding is important to choose what kinds paper regards Jessie
it seems you have forget a very imporatant information ,the total pages of your book ,without that ,nobody can quote you
