GTOz only inches but doesn't run.

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  1. m_alatorre

    m_alatorre Senior Member

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    Just got a 1993 GTOZ installed in our shop. It's Alcolor. I turn it on and compresor starts and gets pressure. But there is a red light in both printing units that does not go off. I cheked all seafty devices and seem to be in order. but red light still on. I got inking rollers out for cleaning, but machine should run anyway(right?) i'm new to alcolor(i also turn on Royse R&R and water gets into pans) and i'm not sure if i'm missing something or press has a electrical and/or mechanical problem. Any pressman out there? or a technician? Any help very appreciated!

    Moe
     
  2. NotAGooner

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    Sounds like the compressor for the alcolor is not up to pressure?
     
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    If you removed ink rollers, the roller journels need to be in the closed position in order for the press to operate.
    Good Luck
     
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    NOT on a GTO.

    Regards.
     
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    Hi,

    Is the water up to the sensors in the pans.
    To check just turn the damper pans off on the control panel.
    Check the 2 sheet trip adjuster isn't touching the trip wheel.

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    m_alatorre Senior Member

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    Thanks for your help guys!
    * Compressor is fine...i think(over 7 bar un manometer, besides machine inches)
    * i put all the rollers back in and no run yet, so i guess not a roller problem.

    *i put water(and then put it out) and saw the yellow light going on and off(so i think it's not about that too) Also tried turning off the damp pans in control panel and still no run.

    Thanks again to all and any new ideas wellcome
     
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    Isn't there a seperate compressor for the pneumatics?

    I am experienced in MOZPs and Speedmasters, so can only speak from that standpoint

    Sorry not up to speed on alcolor GTOs
     
  8. mrheidelberg

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    The compressor on a GTO with alcolor, only works the damping system.
     
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    Hi,

    I guess you have checked the 2 sheet trip.
    Do you have a blue light flashing anywhere.
    When you are opening and closing the guards can you hear the respective relay opening and closing.

    Regards.
     
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    Dirt, paper dust on the eyes or is it a single sheet feeder?
     

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    m_alatorre Senior Member

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    Thanks again guys!
    I apreciate all your hints. You may be thrilled to know what really was the problem here...
    The main motor. There is a thermo-magnetic "breaker" on it and now i remember that, when installed, the guy showed me how that switch protects the motor and then turned it off. Because it doesn't look like it was off, i never checked that! Today i pushed it and red light became green and could start the press.

    Thanks for your help and i'll be arround to try and pay my knowledge debt.

    Moe
     
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