Need Equipment 1 color & 2 Color 250k/Week

Discussion in 'Digital Duplicators' started by TurtleCrickNick, Sep 29, 2008.

  1. TurtleCrickNick

    TurtleCrickNick New Member

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    Here are the jobs we have an opportunity on:
    1 Color 65# Letter Size Cover Stock 125k per week
    2 Color 65# Letter Size Cover Stock 125k per week
    1 color 2 sides 20# Tabloid 10k per Week

    After talking w/Equipment Reps, a Digital Duplicator seems to be a solution. Spoke with a Riso Rep about a Duplicator. He said cost is 2/10 of a penny or $.002 per side on 20% ink coverage on letter size paper.

    Which Machine Would Be Best?
    I definitely want Digital Equipment for this.
    Willing to hear about new & used equipment.
    We are in Pittsburgh, PA, willing to work with local printers w/Capacity.

    Thanks In Advance
     
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2008
  2. xpquickprint

    xpquickprint Senior Member

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    Is everything you're printing strictly text and line art logos? (no screens?)

    The old 400 dpi duplicators don't come close for me, and even the 600 dpi digital duplicators don't provide adequate screens for my eye. If my customers have me print something, they expect the result to look better than their desktop inkjet and small laser printers, and I don't think digital duplicators can produce a fine enough screen to meet that challenge today.
     
  3. DigitalColorGraphics

    DigitalColorGraphics Member

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    Never buy equipment for a specific job or job opportunity.....you need to HAVE enough work to support the machine and if you go into leases or purchases of equipment to fulfill the needs of one customer you are asking for trouble....
     
  4. plotter

    plotter Senior Member

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    id say you need to buy a small offset, maybe you can run 2 jobs at the same time on sra3 and just cut them in half, that is the cheapest way in my opinion.
     
  5. kingpd@businessprints.net

    kingpd@businessprints.net Senior Member

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    In house technician is best.

    We use mostly canon imagerunners. Our cost per page is actually lower than .002 per side.

    Of course it helps if you own the equipment and have your own copier technician (me)...so we have no lease payment, click charges, or service calls.

    We do run a Gestetner duplicator (rarely) for internal docs and the quality just isn't there. The imagerunners get richer blacks and beautiful text and do grayscales/photos better.

    I'm not sure what you'll be selling these for but maybe consider outsourcing or negotiating a special rate with your copier people. Telling your sales rep. that you'll be doing an extra million images per month is a good negotiating point.

    If it's spot color, maybe you can run a spot color on the digital duplicator and the rest on a copier.

    ~Patrick
     
  6. Heidelberglen

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    Heidi

    If you want to do it cheap and the quality is fair to good find yourself and old Heidelber TOK for a couple of grand, and a polyester plate maker and wallah. The press will run that job at 10,000 IPH. I know, I do it all the time! Do the math!!
     

  7. plotter

    plotter Senior Member

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    i wouldnt bother, get an sra2 press, a solna or oliver
     
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