Hello, Can anyone tell me is there any machine named "arolliya". some one suggested me this machine. They say it works and looks like PO 25 of Manugraph. Please help as I dont know much about printing machines. Regards
ORELIA , a press built in Italy for some years , but not any more. When it printed , it had very good quality. The problem was.... it was rare for it to work - lot's of technical issues all the time. If you have spare money to put away...i can give you some better ideas. If you do not have money to spare,..... keep away and as far as you can
What technical issues in ORELIA. I will be thankfull if you can suggest me any other machine. I want to buy single colour machine which can print heavy duplex(e.g. 500gsm)and should not be expensive as i am very much new in this line.
what size of press do you need ? I would say , if you wanted a good press that has parts & service , and can print heavy stock well , you need one of the following: Komori Heidelberg KBA Yes , you can get a Miller for as low as nothing , but it will cost you high....same with Orelia and some others. Go for a standard press from a living manufacturer ... Need help ?
I agree Aurelia it is , but it is such a bad press i did not hold the spelling that important It;s a cheap press...and for a good reason.
If I remember correctly the Aurelia presses were Italian knockoffs of Harris sheet feds. The name Omsca comes to mind as either the parent company or distributor. Back in the day Harris sheet feds were considered pretty decent workhorses.
Thanks for your valuable opinions. I would go for Heidelberg. Need your help again, which model is for me ?
The answer to tis question starts with your budget! you should define the size of sheet and sort of stocks you need to print. After this it will be possible to reccommend. Do comsider a Heidelberg , as old as it is will cost more , yet be more valuable for years on. You can also try Komori or Roland , both good preses for a fair cost
Bugdet as I say is not much as I am new in business.The stock I want to print is 250gsm-500gsm duplex, Art card, SBS. Size is 20 x 28 or 19 x 26. Mostly we Print special colours.
OK If you are aiming at Duplex or up to 500 GSM board , you can not use a Speed MAster but need a CD or a Komori - for the double cylinders... Again , what is your budget ? You will not find a CD that prints for 20000 USD , nor will you find a good Komori for this price. The Budget is the first step on the way to get the right press.
Just go for a 1 or 2 color Roland Rekord as you mentioned you have a small budget and you can run every thing on it.....
If you are after a one color press , i do have a very nice 1 color Roland Rekord with conventional damps in excellent condition in Europe for a good price. contact if interested
We had a new Manugraph PO 25 Super press in our printshop at Mumbai since 1989. These were produced on limited license, from Machinenfrabik Polygraph, (about 500 presses only) originally a Czech firm design. Super (sold as PO25 and PO36) designated presses were different than the prior iteration. Aurellia is very similar to the machine, perhaps older original designs. This one had better automation (with photocells and stream feeders and new control panel/electricals) and is a fine and heavy cast press. The press also has push-pull side lays and pull gripper for impression, which is not precise for high speed operation. However, the quality produced on this press was great with multi-colour jobs as fine as 170lpi (printable) and a few stochastic printing jobs, which got praised by our customers. They sold Weko powder as optional on this press, so very rarely will you find one with a powder attachment much useful for spot and solid patches. The press was produced majorly in single colour variant to be discontinued. Later they sold Shiva (multi-colour), which was a much improved version of original Solna Shiva (again by Manugraph, India). The press would at the max be comfortable to pick and handle 350-400gsm stock, at production speeds not over 5,000iph for heavy stock. There were known issues with photo sensors electronics and mechanical double sheet detectors and company's original best technicians (apparently) migrated to bigger companies or were poached by big newspaper printers making servicing this machine a bit*h. Manugraph has marginal yet strong presence in the web market and sheetfed production was stopped after introduction of a much advance CPC Printmagic multicolour presses and selling those in limited nos. In India you should look for used Adast (Dominant) presses (original ones); not the ones made on license by J Mahabeer etc. Ideally you could look for SORM or SORMZ or SM72-2 for your needs, but as suggested rightly by Meny a CD or Double Diameter press is ideal for stocks above 400 gsm, although relatively much costlier investments. Then again with shift and focus on faster make readies and shorter runs you might want to rethink very hard before you make an investment in any press. Industry demands jobs yesterday for orders placed today if you get the drift. Rolands are great press too, but stay away since majority operators or machine minders here are not very fond of this brand and prefer working on presses like Heidelbergs or Adasts or Komori to greater extent. KBAs too were a rare breed until recently in India. More advanced Rolands have long been operating only in bigger production houses and not in smaller print shops where still pre-owned Heidelbergs are a press of choice.
