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Old 11-28-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default A rookie trying to break in to the biz..

Hello,

I own a wide format Canon ipf800 44" printer, and do a lot of posters, banners, etc. I am very skilled in graphic design, and have kept a succesful side business away from my 9-5 corporate job. I would like to break into the offset business, and am trying to buy an old used offset machine and teach myself how to use it. 've found a couple for the $5k price range that work, and wondering....... can I use the newer technology (burning plates by using reverse image transparancies through a laser printer) with the older presses? (I.E. the Hamada 700cd two color)....

Can anyone give me any advice of how to purchase a 2 color press for around 5k and teach myself the ropes? I would be willing to pay for some instruction, but I live in New Mexico, soon to move to Utah within 12 months.

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Voodochile
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Old 01-28-2008, 11:32 PM
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ill teach you when you come to utah
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:43 AM
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We use plastic laser imaged plates in my daughters home business on a Ryobi 2800cd. Not sure why you would want to reverse image the plates though? They work fine for single color work although she has run 2 color close register fairly successfully. I have seen them last 15,000 impressions, run about $1.50 a plate. They will stretch so you need to set plate to blanket to a minimum.
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Old 01-30-2008, 04:13 PM
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Hello,

I own a wide format Canon ipf800 44" printer, and do a lot of posters, banners, etc. I am very skilled in graphic design, and have kept a succesful side business away from my 9-5 corporate job. I would like to break into the offset business, and am trying to buy an old used offset machine and teach myself how to use it. 've found a couple for the $5k price range that work, and wondering....... can I use the newer technology (burning plates by using reverse image transparancies through a laser printer) with the older presses? (I.E. the Hamada 700cd two color)....

Can anyone give me any advice of how to purchase a 2 color press for around 5k and teach myself the ropes? I would be willing to pay for some instruction, but I live in New Mexico, soon to move to Utah within 12 months.

Thanks,

Voodochile
What ever press you get, I really stressed safety--no loose clothes, no jewelry, long hair pulled back, aprons tied in the back.
Printing press can be dangerous
http://www.examiner.com/a-1188219%7E...ccident. html

How you could tell someone was a long-time pressman--he's the one missing a thumb
(from licking his thumb and trying to remove a hickey off the plate while the press was still running)


David C. Lopez
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:02 PM
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If the Hamada 700 series press your looking at has a vaccume pull guide run and hide!!! The 800 series used a pull guide but Hamada never really got it right. 700 and 800 series ran the sheets landscape tho which was nice. The 660 2 color series was a pretty good workhorse. Later ones with the extended plate cyls were nice as you'd avoid the headaches of cyl lines if your image wasn't perfectly postioned. The Hamada 500/600 series was more or less based and built off the Multi 1250 and IMO a better machine than the Multi. If you have any local tech schools they might still offer printing. Most of them around here have switched to design. Our HS still has a printing class now with design. So maybe visit the local HS shop teachers and see if someone can give you some pointers. My first job was running a single color 1250. I had ZERO experience and the PM was a total dick and offered no help. So I learned quickly how to print and repair. Give yourself a good year for a learning curve till your really comfy and can troubleshoot problems yourself. To actually learn the machine you'll pickup the basics in a few weeks with some guidance. Good luck!!
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Old 02-06-2008, 08:14 PM
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How you could tell someone was a long-time pressman--he's the one missing a thumb
(from licking his thumb and trying to remove a hickey off the plate while the press was still running)


David C. Lopez

Been there....done that. Still have all my fingers tho. But I've been bit a few times. Guy I was training one time on a 360 with a Kompac.....I told him NOT to clean it RUNNING with a rag using his fingers. It has a inward nip. Well next thing you know it grabbed his index finger and ripped a good 1"+ of skin off. And that's just a little press.
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